From: Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: Spinlocks: Factor our GENERIC_LOCKBREAK in order to avoid spin with irqs disable
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:17:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1214471867.17319.8.camel@elijah.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48630420.1090102@goop.org>
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 19:51 -0700, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> [...]
> I'm experimenting with adding pvops hook to allow you to put in new
> spinlock implementations on the fly. If nothing else, it will be useful
> for experimenting with different algorithms. But it definitely seems
> like the old unfair lock algorithm played much better with a virtual
> environment, because the next cpu to get the lock is the next one the
> scheduler gives time, rather than dictating an order - and the scheduler
> should mitigate the unfairness that ticket locks were designed to solve.
We really should paravirtualize spin locks, because there's always
something better to do than just burn time spinning. But in a
non-virtualized environment, tickets (or a similar scheme) should be
preserved.
We should probably re-think the whole locking scheme, because spinlocks
were designed to be held for a short period of time. This was a fair
assumption when they were introduced, but obviously it is now false in
many cases (such as virtualization).
Ticket-based spinlocks have actually already changed the original
design, so why not implement a generic "lock scheduler" on top of
spinlock_t and rwlock_t?
Petr Tesarik
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-26 9:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-06 19:26 Spinlocks waiting with interrupts disabled / preempt disabled Christoph Lameter
2008-05-07 7:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-07 17:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-07 17:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-07 18:49 ` Spinlocks: Factor our GENERIC_LOCKBREAK in order to avoid spin with irqs disable Christoph Lameter
2008-05-09 10:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-09 16:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-23 17:19 ` Petr Tesarik
2008-06-23 17:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-23 18:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-23 20:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-23 20:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-23 20:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-26 2:51 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-26 6:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-26 15:49 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-26 9:17 ` Petr Tesarik [this message]
2008-06-26 17:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-26 17:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-07 11:50 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-07 11:52 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-07 15:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-08 2:08 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-07 15:53 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-07 19:46 ` Rik van Riel
2008-07-07 20:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-08 2:07 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-08 5:57 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-08 8:41 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-08 15:58 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-05-09 16:35 ` Spinlocks waiting with interrupts disabled / preempt disabled Olaf Weber
2008-05-09 17:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-09 18:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-09 18:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-09 20:01 ` Olaf Weber
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