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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@googlemail.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	perfctr-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [patch] Performance Counters for Linux, v4
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:22:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1229437341.7025.11.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18758.18810.350923.806445@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>

On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 23:11 +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> Ingo Molnar writes:
> 
> > We are pleased to announce the v4 release of our performance counters 
> > subsystem implementation.
> 
> Looking at the code, I am wondering what you are planning to do to
> support machines that have constraints on what sets of events can be
> counted simultaneously.  Currently you have the core code calling
> counter->hw_ops->hw_perf_counter_enable which can't return an error.
> The core expects it to be able to add any counter regardless of what
> event it's counting, subject only to a maximum number of counters.
> I assume you're going to change that.
> 
> I think the core should put together a list of counters and counter
> groups that it would like to have on the PMU simultaneously and then
> make one call to the arch layer to ask if that is possible.  That
> could either return success or failure.  If it returns failure then
> the core needs to ask for something less, or something different.  I'm
> not sure how the core should choose what to ask for instead, though.

I think the constraint set should be applied when we add to a group, if
when we add a counter to the group, the result isn't schedulable
anymore, we should fail the group addition - and thereby the counter
creation.

This would leave us with groups that are always schedulable in an atomic
fashion.

>From what I understand the code RRs groups (co-scheduling groups where
possible) (ungrouped counter is a group of one), this means that with
the above addition you'd have the needed control over things.

If you need things to be atomic, create a single group, if you're fine
with RR time-sharing, create multiple.

This seems to leave a hole where multiple monitors collide and create
multiple groups unaware of each-other - could we plug this hole with a
group attribute?




  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-16 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-14 21:28 Ingo Molnar
2008-12-15 11:59 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-15 12:11 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-16 14:22   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-12-16 23:06     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-16 23:51       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-17  1:55       ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-16 18:01         ` Corey Ashford
2009-01-16 22:14           ` Maynard Johnson
2009-01-16 23:11             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-17  1:26           ` Paul Mackerras
2009-01-17  9:53             ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-17  2:23       ` [Perfctr-devel] " Dan Terpstra
2008-12-17  7:34       ` stephane eranian
2008-12-15 17:44 ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-15 21:07   ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-15 22:13     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-15 21:42   ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-15 22:03     ` stephane eranian
2008-12-16 14:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-16 16:55       ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-16 21:52         ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-16 12:22 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-16 12:50   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-16 12:57     ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-16 13:03       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-16 13:13         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-16 20:04           ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-16 14:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-16 15:46 ` [Perfctr-devel] " Martin Cracauer
2008-12-16 17:38 ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-16 19:47   ` Corey Ashford
2008-12-16 20:55     ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-16 19:56 ` [Perfctr-devel] " William Cohen
2008-12-17  1:51   ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-17  1:56     ` Samuel Thibault
     [not found]       ` <d484eb1f0812162357n7a851f2fncc0abaae9bd293a4@mail.gmail.com>
2008-12-17  9:18         ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]           ` <d484eb1f0812170611s597e014cl5fb98d6dd81afd49@mail.gmail.com>
2008-12-17 15:06             ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-17 16:00 ` William Cohen
2008-12-17 20:53   ` Corey Ashford

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