From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@googlemail.com>,
Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
perfctr-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [patch] Performance Counters for Linux, v4
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:22:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1229437341.7025.11.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18758.18810.350923.806445@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 23:11 +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> Ingo Molnar writes:
>
> > We are pleased to announce the v4 release of our performance counters
> > subsystem implementation.
>
> Looking at the code, I am wondering what you are planning to do to
> support machines that have constraints on what sets of events can be
> counted simultaneously. Currently you have the core code calling
> counter->hw_ops->hw_perf_counter_enable which can't return an error.
> The core expects it to be able to add any counter regardless of what
> event it's counting, subject only to a maximum number of counters.
> I assume you're going to change that.
>
> I think the core should put together a list of counters and counter
> groups that it would like to have on the PMU simultaneously and then
> make one call to the arch layer to ask if that is possible. That
> could either return success or failure. If it returns failure then
> the core needs to ask for something less, or something different. I'm
> not sure how the core should choose what to ask for instead, though.
I think the constraint set should be applied when we add to a group, if
when we add a counter to the group, the result isn't schedulable
anymore, we should fail the group addition - and thereby the counter
creation.
This would leave us with groups that are always schedulable in an atomic
fashion.
>From what I understand the code RRs groups (co-scheduling groups where
possible) (ungrouped counter is a group of one), this means that with
the above addition you'd have the needed control over things.
If you need things to be atomic, create a single group, if you're fine
with RR time-sharing, create multiple.
This seems to leave a hole where multiple monitors collide and create
multiple groups unaware of each-other - could we plug this hole with a
group attribute?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-16 14:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-14 21:28 Ingo Molnar
2008-12-15 11:59 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-15 12:11 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-16 14:22 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-12-16 23:06 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-16 23:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-17 1:55 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-16 18:01 ` Corey Ashford
2009-01-16 22:14 ` Maynard Johnson
2009-01-16 23:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-17 1:26 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-01-17 9:53 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-17 2:23 ` [Perfctr-devel] " Dan Terpstra
2008-12-17 7:34 ` stephane eranian
2008-12-15 17:44 ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-15 21:07 ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-15 22:13 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-15 21:42 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-15 22:03 ` stephane eranian
2008-12-16 14:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-16 16:55 ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-16 21:52 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-16 12:22 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-16 12:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-16 12:57 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-16 13:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-16 13:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-16 20:04 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-16 14:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-16 15:46 ` [Perfctr-devel] " Martin Cracauer
2008-12-16 17:38 ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-16 19:47 ` Corey Ashford
2008-12-16 20:55 ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-16 19:56 ` [Perfctr-devel] " William Cohen
2008-12-17 1:51 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-17 1:56 ` Samuel Thibault
[not found] ` <d484eb1f0812162357n7a851f2fncc0abaae9bd293a4@mail.gmail.com>
2008-12-17 9:18 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <d484eb1f0812170611s597e014cl5fb98d6dd81afd49@mail.gmail.com>
2008-12-17 15:06 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-17 16:00 ` William Cohen
2008-12-17 20:53 ` Corey Ashford
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