From: Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@googlemail.com>,
Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
perfctr-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, maynardj@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [patch] Performance Counters for Linux, v4
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:01:19 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4970CB6F.9000301@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ljuf1s75.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>
Andi Kleen wrote:
> Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> writes:
>> The perf counter subsystem will, in Ingo's design, naturally try to
>> schedule as many counters and groups on as it can. Given a list of
>> counters/groups, it could start with the first and keep on trying to
>> add counters or groups while it can, essentially trying all possible
>> combinations until it either fills up all the hardware counters or
>> exhausts the possible combinations. If it moves all the
>> counters/groups that do fit on up to the head of the list, and then
>> rotates them to the back of the list when the timeslice expires, that
>> would probably be OK. In fact the computation about what set of
>> counters/groups to put on should be done when adding/removing a
>> counter/group and when the timeslice expires, rather than at context
>> switch time. (I'm talking about the list of part-time counters/groups
>> here, of course.)
>
> One issue is that PMU counts can cover more than one CPU. One example
> for this are the Uncore events on Nehalem (which cover a whole socket)
> or when you are in AnyThreads monitoring mode (then you get events
> from both SMT siblings in a core)
>
> With that you would need to examine other CPU's state at context switch
> time. Probably not a good idea for scalability.
>
> -Andi
>
Over time, it seems clear that we will see multi-core processor designs
with increasingly large uncore/nest facilities, so this could become
more and more of an issue.
- Corey
Corey Ashford
Software Engineer
IBM Linux Technology Center, Linux Toolchain
Beaverton, OR
503-578-3507
cjashfor@us.ibm.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-16 18:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-14 21:28 Ingo Molnar
2008-12-15 11:59 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-15 12:11 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-16 14:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-16 23:06 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-16 23:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-17 1:55 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-16 18:01 ` Corey Ashford [this message]
2009-01-16 22:14 ` Maynard Johnson
2009-01-16 23:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-17 1:26 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-01-17 9:53 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-17 2:23 ` [Perfctr-devel] " Dan Terpstra
2008-12-17 7:34 ` stephane eranian
2008-12-15 17:44 ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-15 21:07 ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-15 22:13 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-15 21:42 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-15 22:03 ` stephane eranian
2008-12-16 14:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-16 16:55 ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-16 21:52 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-16 12:22 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-16 12:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-16 12:57 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-16 13:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-16 13:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-16 20:04 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-16 14:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-16 15:46 ` [Perfctr-devel] " Martin Cracauer
2008-12-16 17:38 ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-16 19:47 ` Corey Ashford
2008-12-16 20:55 ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-16 19:56 ` [Perfctr-devel] " William Cohen
2008-12-17 1:51 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-17 1:56 ` Samuel Thibault
[not found] ` <d484eb1f0812162357n7a851f2fncc0abaae9bd293a4@mail.gmail.com>
2008-12-17 9:18 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <d484eb1f0812170611s597e014cl5fb98d6dd81afd49@mail.gmail.com>
2008-12-17 15:06 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-17 16:00 ` William Cohen
2008-12-17 20:53 ` Corey Ashford
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