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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Nils Smeds <nils.smeds@gmail.com>
Cc: Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	William Cohen <wcohen@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@googlemail.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	perfctr-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [Perfctr-devel] [patch] Performance Counters for Linux, v4
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:18:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081217091845.GC25779@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d484eb1f0812162357n7a851f2fncc0abaae9bd293a4@mail.gmail.com>

> To make life easier for developers not interested in exact measuring, but in
> cross-platform development, PAPI has introduced "generic" events. These are
> documented not to be interpretable in a cross-platform manner - and
> typically consist of aggregation of a number of low-level architecture
> specific events. Instead a measure as PERF_COUNT_CACHE_REFERENCES tries to
> create an event set that is a "best effort" for the platform. Typically it
> would try to count read and write events to L1 and L2, but depending on the

The point was that L1 and L2/L3 behave so differently in practice
due to their latency/bandwidth differences (typically L1 is more like a 
slower register file while L3 is more like faster DRAM) that it's unclear
that any generic event not defining what it means is any useful.

I could see the point of generic FLC/LLC cache events perhaps,
but not of a single one lumping these two together.

But although with multi core it looks like 3 level hierarchies are
becoming more and more common and also more important to know
about.

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-17  9:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-14 21:28 Ingo Molnar
2008-12-15 11:59 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-15 12:11 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-16 14:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-16 23:06     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-16 23:51       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-17  1:55       ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-16 18:01         ` Corey Ashford
2009-01-16 22:14           ` Maynard Johnson
2009-01-16 23:11             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-17  1:26           ` Paul Mackerras
2009-01-17  9:53             ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-17  2:23       ` [Perfctr-devel] " Dan Terpstra
2008-12-17  7:34       ` stephane eranian
2008-12-15 17:44 ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-15 21:07   ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-15 22:13     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-15 21:42   ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-15 22:03     ` stephane eranian
2008-12-16 14:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-16 16:55       ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-16 21:52         ` Paul Mackerras
2008-12-16 12:22 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-16 12:50   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-16 12:57     ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-16 13:03       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-16 13:13         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-16 20:04           ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-16 14:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-16 15:46 ` [Perfctr-devel] " Martin Cracauer
2008-12-16 17:38 ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-16 19:47   ` Corey Ashford
2008-12-16 20:55     ` Vince Weaver
2008-12-16 19:56 ` [Perfctr-devel] " William Cohen
2008-12-17  1:51   ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-17  1:56     ` Samuel Thibault
     [not found]       ` <d484eb1f0812162357n7a851f2fncc0abaae9bd293a4@mail.gmail.com>
2008-12-17  9:18         ` Andi Kleen [this message]
     [not found]           ` <d484eb1f0812170611s597e014cl5fb98d6dd81afd49@mail.gmail.com>
2008-12-17 15:06             ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-17 16:00 ` William Cohen
2008-12-17 20:53   ` Corey Ashford

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