From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: tip: New "Link:" tag to replace "LKML-Reference:"
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 16:54:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1302188050.9086.27.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D9DCDAB.9000707@zytor.com>
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 07:43 -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 04/07/2011 07:08 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >
> > OK, so I fixed my scripts to match this and it all seems to work, except
> > for the:
> >
> > LKML-Reference: <new-submission>
> >
> > case, where the tip-bot would mail it out for me. While I try not to use
> > it too much its convenient for quick fixes etc. Will the absence of a
> > Link tag suffice or is there more to it?
> >
>
> OK, I have asked for a long time that we do not use <new-submission>.
>
> The recommended pattern has been:
>
> LKML-Reference: <tip-*@git.kernel.org>
>
> ... which at least indicates to the user how the message-ID is to be
> generated (* being a placeholder for the commit SHA1).
Oh, I never heard of that, it would've been easy to make my scripts do
that if that were the preferred form, a well.
> The only think I can think of for how to make Link: work would be to
> recognize a pattern that the tip-bot would use as its own Message-ID
> *instead* of the commit SHA1 pattern that it would normally use. There
> are disadvantages to every approach, of course.
>
> We have a couple of alternatives:
>
> a) Continue to use "LKML-Reference: <tip-*@git.kernel.org>"
> + At least gives a hint how to find the newly-formed LKML thread
> - Not a clickable link
> - Somewhat noisy
> b) Just Cc: everything to LKML regardless of tag
> + Easy
> - No way to *not* post everything to LKML
> - No way to locate the thread without knowing the magic
> c) A recognizable pattern with a unique pattern *generated by the
> committer*, something like:
> Link: http://lkml.kernel.org/r/tip-`uuidgen -r`@git.kernel.org
> + Clickable link
> - Long (the above is 86 characters wide)
> - Message-IDs of a nonstandard form
> - Bad things will happen if someone re-uses an identifier
> - String has to be generated by machine at commit time
>
> [Using ranpwd instead of uuidgen allows for a more compact random string
> by using a wider character set. For example:
>
> Link: http://lkml.kernel.org/r/tip-`ranpwd -l 24`@git.kernel.org
>
> ... has the same entropy but is 74 characters wide.]
Can't we use a prepare-commit-msg or commit-msg hook to re-write the
commit message to include a Link tag when one is missing, using
something like:
Link: http://lkml.kernel.org/r/tip-$SHA@git.kernel.org
And have the post-commit hook that sends the messages recognize this
form and send the message using the correct msgid.
That way the commit includes a correct and clickable link, doesn't
require magic knowledge and doesn't need the committer to do extra work.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-07 14:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-06 22:09 H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-07 14:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-07 14:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-07 14:54 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-04-07 14:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-07 15:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-07 15:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-07 15:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-08 19:05 ` Link: tags for new submission -- UPDATE H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-07 15:03 ` tip: New "Link:" tag to replace "LKML-Reference:" H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-07 15:28 ` Sam Ravnborg
2011-04-07 15:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-08 14:36 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2011-04-08 18:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
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