From: "Masoud Sharbiani \"مسعود شربیانی\"" <masouds@masoud.ir>
To: "Tuomo Valkonen" <tuomov@iki.fi>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: The ext3 way of journalling
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:07:37 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1a9da18c0801081007q1ed8ce04x7a78e880ee5bcac7@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <slrnfo7e3i.c37.tuomov@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi>
On 1/8/08, Tuomo Valkonen <tuomov@iki.fi> wrote:
> On 2008-01-08, Andre Noll <maan@systemlinux.org> wrote:
> > Use tune2fs to deactivate checking.
>
> So, a workaround is the answer to a clear bug. Typical FOSS.
It isn't a bug. It is a feature; Think about silent corruption that
may damage your filesystem; Only an FSCK can see how much of damage is
done and fix it. Journaling will help you to a degree, but not all the
way.
> > Modify the init scripts or use another distro.
>
> Another typical FOSS answer. "You have the source, you can fix it."
> With what time?
heh, the way I look at it, you either have the time, or money. Use one
and get rid of your problem. If you have them and aren't willing to
commit to fix your problem, maybe your problem isn't important enough
to you. If you have no time and no money, ranting here doesn't help
you either.
cheers,
Masoud
> > Don't use udev then. Good old static dev works fine if you have a fixed
> > set of devices.
>
> It doesn't, with the unpredictable SCSI mapping insanity.
>
> > You're using the sil3112 driver? Edit its blacklist and remove the
> > entry for your drive. That gives you the usual speed.
>
> Recompiling? No thanks. Compiling the Linux kernel is too painful.
>
> > Check your tool-chain. Many people compile recent kernels with no problems.
>
> And recompile and recompile and recompile ad infinitum, because always
> some option was missing or wrong, there being far too many of them and
> hidden all over the place.
>
> > Nobody forces you to use udev. Moreover, you can write your own udev
> > rules that match your expectations.
>
> See above on having time to learn over-cryptic systems.
>
> > You're not ranting about Linux but about your Distro. Complain on
> > the corresponding distro-specific mailing list, use another distro
> > and and stop whining.
>
> I don't use a distro kernel. I use a kernel I compiled myself over
> two years ago. I have tried compiling newer ones, but it's too much
> work to get all the options right. And then there's the problem that
> the "good" driver for my SATA disk may not be there anymore in the
> latest kernels, and so on.
>
> --
> Tuomo
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-08 18:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-08 16:07 Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 16:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 16:52 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 17:18 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 17:48 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 18:32 ` Diego Calleja
2008-01-08 18:42 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 16:39 ` John Stoffel
2008-01-08 16:59 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 21:49 ` John Stoffel
2008-01-09 13:39 ` Mathieu SEGAUD
2008-01-09 14:16 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-10 13:16 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-10 13:41 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-12 15:06 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-12 19:24 ` Andrey Vul
2008-01-13 22:13 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-13 22:23 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-13 23:11 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-14 7:15 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 9:42 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 9:48 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 9:57 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 10:44 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-14 11:11 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 11:18 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 11:27 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 10:06 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-14 11:03 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 12:46 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-14 16:18 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-14 23:13 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2008-01-15 16:31 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-15 1:09 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-15 16:32 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-14 16:10 ` me
2008-01-14 16:17 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 22:39 ` John Hubbard
2008-01-14 0:36 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-01-08 16:48 ` Andre Noll
2008-01-08 17:52 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:07 ` Masoud Sharbiani "مسعود شربیانی" [this message]
2008-01-08 18:16 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:22 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 18:11 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 18:20 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:29 ` Andre Noll
2008-01-08 18:40 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:47 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 23:06 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 7:56 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-09 10:21 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 10:28 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 12:30 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-10 11:30 ` Helge Hafting
2008-01-10 14:02 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-10 14:41 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 2:05 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-08 16:53 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 17:01 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:15 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-08 20:51 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 21:03 ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-08 21:57 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 3:21 ` Kyle Moffett
2008-01-09 7:55 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09 12:49 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 8:00 ` BuraphaLinux Server
2008-01-09 8:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09 9:54 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 12:25 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 12:44 ` Michal Schmidt
2008-01-09 13:53 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 19:47 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-08 21:32 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-08 4:16 ` Rogelio Serrano
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2008-01-08 22:24 ` Bodo Eggert
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2008-01-11 16:22 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-11 18:39 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-12 1:41 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-12 7:10 ` TimC
2008-01-12 10:08 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
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