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From: Ondrej Zary <linux@rainbow-software.org>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Tuomo Valkonen <tuomov@iki.fi>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: The ext3 way of journalling
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:03:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801082203.11037.linux@rainbow-software.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p734pdoqbva.fsf@bingen.suse.de>

On Tuesday 08 January 2008 21:51:53 Andi Kleen wrote:
> Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> writes:
> > Now, there are good reasons for doing periodic checks every N mounts
> > and after M months.  And it has to do with PC class hardware.  (Ted's
> > aphorism: "PC class hardware is cr*p").
>
> If these reasons are good ones (some skepticism here) then the correct
> way to really handle this would be to do regular background scrubbing
> during runtime; ideally with metadata checksums so that you can actually
> detect all corruption.
>
> But since fsck is so slow and disks are so big this whole thing
> is a ticking time bomb now. e.g. it is not uncommon to require tens
> of minutes or even hours of fsck time and some server that reboots
> only every few months will eat that when it happens to reboot.
> This means you get a quite long downtime.

That's why I always do "tune2fs -c 0 -i 0" on any new filesystem. It probably 
should be default.

>
> -Andi
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-- 
Ondrej Zary

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-08 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-08 16:07 Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 16:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 16:52   ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 17:18     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 17:48       ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:20         ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 18:32     ` Diego Calleja
2008-01-08 18:42       ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 16:39 ` John Stoffel
2008-01-08 16:59   ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 21:49     ` John Stoffel
2008-01-09 13:39     ` Mathieu SEGAUD
2008-01-09 14:16       ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-10 13:16         ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-10 13:41           ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-12 15:06             ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-12 19:24               ` Andrey Vul
2008-01-13 22:13               ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-13 22:23                 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-13 23:11                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-14  7:15                     ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14  9:42                       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14  9:48                         ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14  9:57                           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 10:44                             ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-14 11:11                             ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 11:18                               ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 11:27                                 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 10:06                           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-14 11:03                             ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 12:46                               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-14 16:18                                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-14 23:13                                   ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2008-01-15 16:31                                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-15  1:09                                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-15 16:32                                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-14 16:10                       ` me
2008-01-14 16:17                         ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 22:39                       ` John Hubbard
2008-01-14  0:36                   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-01-08 16:48 ` Andre Noll
2008-01-08 17:52   ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:07     ` Masoud Sharbiani "مسعود شربیانی"
2008-01-08 18:16       ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:22         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 18:11     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 18:20       ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:29     ` Andre Noll
2008-01-08 18:40       ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:47         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 23:06     ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09  7:56       ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-09 10:21         ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 10:28           ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 12:30             ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-10 11:30       ` Helge Hafting
2008-01-10 14:02         ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-10 14:41         ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09  2:05     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-08 16:53 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 17:01   ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:15     ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-08 20:51       ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 21:03         ` Ondrej Zary [this message]
2008-01-08 21:57         ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09  3:21         ` Kyle Moffett
2008-01-09  7:55           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09 12:49             ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09  8:00           ` BuraphaLinux Server
2008-01-09  8:21             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09  9:54       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 12:25         ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 12:44           ` Michal Schmidt
2008-01-09 13:53           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 19:47             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-08 21:32 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-08  4:16 ` Rogelio Serrano
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2008-01-08 22:24         ` Bodo Eggert
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2008-01-11 16:22       ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-11 18:39         ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-12  1:41           ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-12  7:10             ` TimC
2008-01-12 10:08               ` Matthias Schniedermeyer

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