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From: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>
To: david@gibson.dropbear.id.au
Cc: davem@redhat.com, James.Bottomley@steeleye.com,
	jgarzik@pobox.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] generic device DMA implementation
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 03:57:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200212051157.DAA04682@adam.yggdrasil.com> (raw)

David Gibson wrote:
>Since, with James's approach you'd need a dma sync function (which
>might compile to NOP) in pretty much the same places you'd need
>map/sync calls, I don't see that it does make the source noticeably
>simpler.

        Because then you don't have to have a branch for
case where the platform *does* support consistent memory.

>>       If were to try the approach of using pci_{map,sync}_single
>> always (i.e., just writing the code not to use alloc_consistent),
>> that would have a performance cost on machines where using
>> consistent memory for writing small amounts of data is cheaper than
>> the cost of the cache flushes that would otherwise be required.
>
>Well, I'm only talking about the cases where we actually care about
>reducing the use of consistent memory.

        Then you're not fully weighing the benefits of this facility.
The primary beneficiaries of this facility are device drivers for
which we'd like to have the performance advantages of consistent
memory when available (at least on machines that always return
consistent memory) but which we'd also like to have work as
efficiently as possible on platforms that lack consistent memory or
have so little that we want the device driver to still work even when
no consistent memory is available.  That includes all PCI devices that
users of the inconsistent parisc machines want to use.

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             reply	other threads:[~2002-12-05 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-05 11:57 Adam J. Richter [this message]
2002-12-06  0:06 ` David Gibson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-12-07 14:37 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-07  4:12 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 22:52 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 22:17 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 22:26 ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06 22:29   ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06 22:48     ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06 22:49       ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06 22:32   ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-12-06 17:39 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 18:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-12-06 17:07 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 16:48 James Bottomley
2002-12-06 16:19 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 16:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-12-06 18:17 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06 18:29   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06 18:31     ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06 18:40       ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06 18:42         ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06 21:04           ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-12-07 10:19       ` David Gibson
2002-12-06 18:36   ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-12-06 18:38     ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06  7:41 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 15:50 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-06  7:14 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06 16:26 ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06 17:48   ` Miles Bader
2002-12-07  9:56   ` David Gibson
2002-12-07  9:45 ` David Gibson
2002-12-07 11:26   ` Russell King
2002-12-08  5:28     ` David Gibson
2002-12-06  6:15 David Brownell
2002-12-06  2:08 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-06  2:53 ` David Gibson
2002-12-06  4:03   ` David S. Miller
2002-12-05 20:27 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05 17:49 Manfred Spraul
2002-12-06  0:08 ` David Gibson
2002-12-05 12:21 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05 12:44 ` Russell King
2002-12-05 12:13 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05  5:20 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05  3:02 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05  6:15 ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  1:21 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05  2:40 ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  2:49   ` Miles Bader
2002-12-05  6:12     ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  0:43 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-05  0:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-05  2:02 ` James Bottomley
2002-12-04 17:47 James Bottomley
2002-12-04 18:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-04 19:36   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-04 21:19 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-04 21:21 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-04 21:42   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  5:44     ` Miles Bader
2002-12-04 21:46   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  2:31     ` Miles Bader
2002-12-05  3:06       ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  5:02       ` David Gibson
2002-12-05 11:15     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-12-05 11:16       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-05 15:12       ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  0:47 ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  0:54   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-05  1:44   ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  2:38     ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  3:13       ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05  5:05         ` David Gibson
2002-12-05 15:03           ` James Bottomley
2002-12-05 23:54             ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  3:17       ` Miles Bader
2002-12-05  6:06         ` David Gibson
2002-12-05  6:43           ` Miles Bader
2002-12-05 23:44             ` David Gibson
2002-12-06  2:23               ` Miles Bader
2002-12-05  3:41       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-05  6:04         ` David Gibson
2002-12-05 16:29           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-12-05 23:59             ` David Gibson
2002-12-05 11:08   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-12-05 11:35     ` Russell King
2002-12-05 15:24       ` James Bottomley
2002-12-06  0:01     ` David Gibson

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