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From: Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev@redhat.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: recursive spinlocks. Shoot.
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 19:54:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200305192354.h4JNsfQ09659@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1053352200.24653.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>

>> Let's quote the example from rubini & corbet of the sbull block device
>> driver. The request function ends like so:
> 
> defective locking in a driver is no excuse to pamper over it with
> recusrive shite.

Arjan is a little too harsh here, but on the principle I happen
to agree, because I worked with systems which allow recursive locks.
They very often cover up for programmer's lack of basic understanding.
Worse, sometimes even experienced programmers can do poorly.
I ran into the latter cathegory of code when fixing so-called
"presto" in Solaris (now replaced by Encore-originated code).

Normal spinlocks are not without problems, in particular people
tend to write:

   void urb_rm_priv_locked(struct urb *) {
     ......
   }
   void urb_rm_priv(struct urb *u) {
     spin_lock_irqsave();
     urb_rm_prin_locked(u);
     spin_unlock_irqrestore();
   }

Which eats a stack frame. We make this tradeoff on purpose,
as a lesser evil.

BTW, I do not see Linus and his leutenants rebuking the onslaught
of recursive ingenuity in this thread. Ignoring the hogwash,
or waiting and watching?

-- Pete

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-19 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-18  9:21 Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-18 16:30 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-18 16:35   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-18 16:49     ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-18 16:54       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-18 17:14         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-18 17:24     ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-18 22:34       ` David Woodhouse
2003-05-19 13:37         ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-19 13:45           ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-19 13:47           ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]           ` <mailman.1053352200.24653.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2003-05-19 23:54             ` Pete Zaitcev [this message]
2003-05-20  0:03               ` viro
2003-05-20  0:03               ` Johannes Erdfelt
2003-05-20  3:12         ` Robert White
2003-05-20 11:59           ` Helge Hafting
2003-05-20 12:23             ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-20 21:05               ` Robert White
2003-05-20 21:42                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-20 23:06                   ` Robert White
2003-05-21 14:01                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-21 21:56                       ` Robert White
2003-05-22  0:13                         ` viro
2003-05-22  0:32                           ` Robert White
2003-05-22  0:46                         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-21  5:48                   ` Nikita Danilov
2003-05-22  1:00           ` Rik van Riel
2003-05-22  3:11             ` Robert White
2003-05-22  4:04               ` Nick Piggin
2003-05-22  4:42                 ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-22  5:09                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-05-23  0:19                 ` Robert White
2003-05-23  7:22                   ` Nikita Danilov
2003-05-23  9:07                     ` Helge Hafting
2003-05-23 12:18                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-24  2:39                       ` Robert White
2003-05-28 16:50                         ` Timothy Miller
2003-05-19  2:05       ` Kevin O'Connor
2003-05-19  6:19       ` Jan Hudec
2003-05-19 10:29       ` Helge Hafting
2003-05-19 11:37         ` Nikita Danilov
2003-05-22  1:21           ` Daniel Phillips
2003-05-19 14:28       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-18 18:13 ` Davide Libenzi
     [not found] <20030518182010$0541@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-05-18 19:09 ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-18 19:31   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-18 19:49     ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-18 20:13       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-19 20:47   ` Jan Hudec
     [not found] <20030518202013$5297@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-05-18 23:15 ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-18 23:26   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-19 12:48     ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-19 17:15       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-19 17:27         ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-19 17:57           ` Alan Cox
2003-05-19 19:51         ` Peter T. Breuer
2003-05-19 20:22   ` Robert White
     [not found] <20030520231013$3d77@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-05-21 14:16 ` Peter T. Breuer

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