mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@cyclades.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Andy Isaacson <adi@hexapodia.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 02:37:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051206013759.GI1770@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1133831242.6360.15.camel@localhost>

Hi!

> > First, I don't think that saving a full image of memory is generally a good
> > idea.  It is - for systems with relatively small RAM, but for systems with
> > more than, say, 512 MB that's questionable.  Of course that depends a lot
> > on the usage patterns of particular system, but having 768 MB of RAM
> > in my box I wouldn't like it to save more than a half of it during suspend,
> > for performance reasons.
> 
> I agree that whether it's a good idea varies according to individual
> tastes and usage. That's why I've made it configurable. The other point
> to remember is that suspend2's I/O performance is much better. My
> desktop here at work, for example, writes the image at 72MB/s and reads
> it back at 116MB/s. (3GHz P4 with a Maxtor 6Y120L0). Writing 1GB at
> these rates is not a problem.

Andy reported 20MB/sec on hdparm. I do not think it is possible to
write faster than that. And that seems about ok for notebooks, X32
(pretty new) has:

root@amd:~# hdparm -t /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  108 MB in  3.01 seconds =  35.85 MB/sec

> > Second, IMHO, some things you are doing in suspend2, like image encryption,
> > or accessing ordinary files, should not be implemented in the kernel.
> 
> Image encryption is just done using cryptoapi - I just expose the
> parameters and optionally save them in the image; there's no nous in
> suspend2 regarding encryption beyond that.

Unfortunately all these "small things" add up.

> Regarding accessing ordinary files, it's really just a variation on the
> swapwriter in that we bmap the storage and then use the blocks we're
> given. There were two reasons for adding this - first removing the
> dependency on available swapspace, and secondly working towards better
> support for embedded (write the image to a file and include the file in
> place of a ramdisk image). The second reason might sound like fluff, but
> I can assure you as an embedded developer myself that embedded people
> are really interested in seeing if this technique will be a viable way
> of speeding up boot times.

Interesting use, but for embedded app, they can just reserve partition
as well. [I have seen some patches doing that.]
								Pavel
-- 
Thanks, Sharp!

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-06  1:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-05  8:19 Andy Isaacson
2005-12-05 12:17 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 13:58   ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-05 17:29     ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 21:11       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-05 23:34         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  1:26           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06  1:52             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 22:44       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-06  0:01         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 22:28     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-06  1:07       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06  1:37         ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-12-06  1:47           ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06  1:56             ` IDE performance on notebooks [was Re: swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1] Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  6:23               ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06 11:56                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  1:57             ` swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1 Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06  3:50             ` Mark Lord
2005-12-06 15:03               ` Mark Lord
2005-12-06  2:02           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 12:09             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  1:36       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06  2:06         ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06  2:21           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 14:22             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-07 22:05               ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-07 22:23                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  2:21           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 12:18           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06 18:15             ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-07  1:05               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07  1:10                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-07 11:17                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07 11:30                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-08 22:42                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-08 22:50                         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 21:18   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-05 23:55     ` swsusp: how much memory to free? [was Re: swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1] Pavel Machek
2005-12-07 11:53       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07 11:59         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-07 12:16           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07 12:18             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 23:05 ` swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-06  0:12   ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06  0:51     ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-10 22:21   ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-10 23:07     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-10 23:33       ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-11 12:16         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-11 23:28           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-12 17:45             ` Rafael J. Wysocki

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20051206013759.GI1770@elf.ucw.cz \
    --to=pavel@suse.cz \
    --cc=adi@hexapodia.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=ncunningham@cyclades.com \
    --cc=rjw@sisk.pl \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

Powered by JetHome