From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@cyclades.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Andy Isaacson <adi@hexapodia.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 02:37:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051206013759.GI1770@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1133831242.6360.15.camel@localhost>
Hi!
> > First, I don't think that saving a full image of memory is generally a good
> > idea. It is - for systems with relatively small RAM, but for systems with
> > more than, say, 512 MB that's questionable. Of course that depends a lot
> > on the usage patterns of particular system, but having 768 MB of RAM
> > in my box I wouldn't like it to save more than a half of it during suspend,
> > for performance reasons.
>
> I agree that whether it's a good idea varies according to individual
> tastes and usage. That's why I've made it configurable. The other point
> to remember is that suspend2's I/O performance is much better. My
> desktop here at work, for example, writes the image at 72MB/s and reads
> it back at 116MB/s. (3GHz P4 with a Maxtor 6Y120L0). Writing 1GB at
> these rates is not a problem.
Andy reported 20MB/sec on hdparm. I do not think it is possible to
write faster than that. And that seems about ok for notebooks, X32
(pretty new) has:
root@amd:~# hdparm -t /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Timing buffered disk reads: 108 MB in 3.01 seconds = 35.85 MB/sec
> > Second, IMHO, some things you are doing in suspend2, like image encryption,
> > or accessing ordinary files, should not be implemented in the kernel.
>
> Image encryption is just done using cryptoapi - I just expose the
> parameters and optionally save them in the image; there's no nous in
> suspend2 regarding encryption beyond that.
Unfortunately all these "small things" add up.
> Regarding accessing ordinary files, it's really just a variation on the
> swapwriter in that we bmap the storage and then use the blocks we're
> given. There were two reasons for adding this - first removing the
> dependency on available swapspace, and secondly working towards better
> support for embedded (write the image to a file and include the file in
> place of a ramdisk image). The second reason might sound like fluff, but
> I can assure you as an embedded developer myself that embedded people
> are really interested in seeing if this technique will be a viable way
> of speeding up boot times.
Interesting use, but for embedded app, they can just reserve partition
as well. [I have seen some patches doing that.]
Pavel
--
Thanks, Sharp!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-06 1:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-05 8:19 Andy Isaacson
2005-12-05 12:17 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 13:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-05 17:29 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 21:11 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-05 23:34 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06 1:26 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 1:52 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 22:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-06 0:01 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 22:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-06 1:07 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 1:37 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-12-06 1:47 ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06 1:56 ` IDE performance on notebooks [was Re: swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1] Pavel Machek
2005-12-06 6:23 ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06 11:56 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06 1:57 ` swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1 Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 3:50 ` Mark Lord
2005-12-06 15:03 ` Mark Lord
2005-12-06 2:02 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 12:09 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06 1:36 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 2:06 ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06 2:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 14:22 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-07 22:05 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-07 22:23 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06 2:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 12:18 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06 18:15 ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-07 1:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07 1:10 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-07 11:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07 11:30 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-08 22:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-08 22:50 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 21:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-05 23:55 ` swsusp: how much memory to free? [was Re: swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1] Pavel Machek
2005-12-07 11:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07 11:59 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-07 12:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07 12:18 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 23:05 ` swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-06 0:12 ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06 0:51 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-10 22:21 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-10 23:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-10 23:33 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-11 12:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-11 23:28 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-12 17:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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