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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Andy Isaacson <adi@hexapodia.org>
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@cyclades.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 13:18:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051206121835.GN1770@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051206020626.GO22168@hexapodia.org>

Hi!

> Newer kernels write and read a bigger image, which makes the prompt show
> up somewhat later, but gives the benefit of putting me back in
> approximately the same place I left off with regards to working set.
> 
> I would like the best of both worlds - I want my suspend to go faster
> (so I want a smaller image), and I also want my working set paged back
> in after resume.
> 
> I'm assuming that the difference is that with Rafael's patches, clean
> pages that would have been evicted in the "freeing pages..." step are
> now being written out to the swsusp image.  If so, this is a waste - no
> point in having the data on disk twice.  (It would be nice to confirm
> this suspicion.)

Confirmed. But you are wrong; it is not a waste. The pages are nicely
linear in suspend image, while they would be all over the disk
otherwise. There can easily be factor 20 difference between linear
read and random read.

> Could we rework it to avoid writing clean pages out to the swsusp image,
> but keep a list of those pages and read them back in *after* having
> resumed?  Maybe do the /dev/initrd ('less +/once Documentation/initrd.txt'
> if you're not familiar with it) trick to make the list of pages available 
> to a userland helper.

I did not understand this one.

> Someone suggested the 'cat `grep / /proc/*/maps`' trick.  This kills the
> working set calculations that the kernel has so painstakingly built up,
> reading in all kinds of pages that were flushed with good reason, and
> also fails to get my Mercurial .d files back into cache, since they are
> not mapped by any long-running process.

Yes, that was very rough approximation.

Anyway, try limiting size of image to ~500MB, first. Should solve your
problem with very little work.
									Pavel
-- 
Thanks, Sharp!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-06 12:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-05  8:19 Andy Isaacson
2005-12-05 12:17 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 13:58   ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-05 17:29     ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 21:11       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-05 23:34         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  1:26           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06  1:52             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 22:44       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-06  0:01         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 22:28     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-06  1:07       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06  1:37         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  1:47           ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06  1:56             ` IDE performance on notebooks [was Re: swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1] Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  6:23               ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06 11:56                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  1:57             ` swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1 Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06  3:50             ` Mark Lord
2005-12-06 15:03               ` Mark Lord
2005-12-06  2:02           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 12:09             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  1:36       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06  2:06         ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06  2:21           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 14:22             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-07 22:05               ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-07 22:23                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  2:21           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 12:18           ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-12-06 18:15             ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-07  1:05               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07  1:10                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-07 11:17                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07 11:30                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-08 22:42                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-08 22:50                         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 21:18   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-05 23:55     ` swsusp: how much memory to free? [was Re: swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1] Pavel Machek
2005-12-07 11:53       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07 11:59         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-07 12:16           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07 12:18             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 23:05 ` swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-06  0:12   ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06  0:51     ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-10 22:21   ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-10 23:07     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-10 23:33       ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-11 12:16         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-11 23:28           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-12 17:45             ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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