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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@cyclades.com>
Cc: Andy Isaacson <adi@hexapodia.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 15:22:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051206142237.GB1814@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1133835586.3896.33.camel@localhost>

Hi!

> Hi. Tue, 2005-12-06 at 12:06, Andy Isaacson wrote:
> > Could we rework it to avoid writing clean pages out to the swsusp image,
> > but keep a list of those pages and read them back in *after* having
> > resumed?  Maybe do the /dev/initrd ('less +/once Documentation/initrd.txt'
> > if you're not familiar with it) trick to make the list of pages available 
> > to a userland helper.
> 
> The problem is that once you let userspace run, you have absolutely no
> control over what pages are read from or written to, and if a userspace
> app assumes that data is there in a page when it isn't, you have a
> recipe for an oops at best, and possibly for on disk
> corruption. Pages

No, that will not be a problem. You just resume system as you do now,
most pages will be not there. *But kernel knows it is not there*, and
will on-demand load them back. It will be normal userland application
doing readback. There's absolutely no risk of corruption.

Imagine something that saves list of needed pages before suspend, then
does something like

cat `cat /proc/[0-9]*/maps | grep / | sed 's:.* /:/:' | sort -u` > /dev/null

...it should work pretty well. And worst thing it can do is send your
system thrashing.

								Pavel
-- 
Thanks, Sharp!

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-06 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-05  8:19 Andy Isaacson
2005-12-05 12:17 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 13:58   ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-05 17:29     ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 21:11       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-05 23:34         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  1:26           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06  1:52             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 22:44       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-06  0:01         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 22:28     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-06  1:07       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06  1:37         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  1:47           ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06  1:56             ` IDE performance on notebooks [was Re: swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1] Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  6:23               ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06 11:56                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  1:57             ` swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1 Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06  3:50             ` Mark Lord
2005-12-06 15:03               ` Mark Lord
2005-12-06  2:02           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 12:09             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  1:36       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06  2:06         ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06  2:21           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 14:22             ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-12-07 22:05               ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-07 22:23                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06  2:21           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-06 12:18           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06 18:15             ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-07  1:05               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07  1:10                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-07 11:17                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07 11:30                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-08 22:42                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-08 22:50                         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 21:18   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-05 23:55     ` swsusp: how much memory to free? [was Re: swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1] Pavel Machek
2005-12-07 11:53       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07 11:59         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-07 12:16           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-07 12:18             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 23:05 ` swsusp performance problems in 2.6.15-rc3-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-06  0:12   ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-06  0:51     ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-10 22:21   ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-10 23:07     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-10 23:33       ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-11 12:16         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-11 23:28           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-12 17:45             ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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