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From: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Cc: Jody McIntyre <scjody@modernduck.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] don't mangle INQUIRY if cmddt or evpd bits are set
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 02:40:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060214024049.GB27946@ftp.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43F0EBE1.8000001@s5r6.in-berlin.de>

On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:28:17PM +0100, Stefan Richter wrote:
> Al Viro wrote:
> >On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 05:19:55PM +0100, Stefan Richter wrote:
> >>BTW, a Prolific based enclosure indeed seems to be unable to handle
> >>CD-ROMs after scsiinfo treatment. An enclosure based on an old
> >>revision of TI StorageLynx apparently causes mode_sense -> check
> >>condition/ unit attention loops when scsiinfo tries to access some
> >>mode page.
> >
> >The former is best treated by using the hardware in question as a pissuary,
> >to make sure that its contents matches the quality of design.
> 
> I have got the impression that most of IEEE 1394a/ USB 2.0 combo bridges 
> on the market are now based on Prolific chips.

Unfortunately.  Finding OXFW911-based ones for about the same price is still
not hard...

> Some more findings:
>  - The TI StorageLynx based bridge reports device type 0 (TYPE_DISK).
>    The problem occurs apparently with page 4 and page 8. Sbp2 has a
>    fix since yesterday which sets the skip_ms_page_8 flag.

That's going to cause fun problems on reboot if it actually has write-behind
cache...

>    http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux1394-devel&m=113969287630893
>  - Another bridge made by the same manufacturer but based on TI
>    StorageLynx revision A features the same MODE SENSE bug. This bridge
>    reports type 14 (TYPE_RBC).

Pardon?  If it's type 14, we won't issue MODE SENSE for page 8 and will
go for page 6 instead...

>  - I tested a tenth bridge now, based on Initio INIC-2430F. The bridge
>    reports TYPE_DISK and seems to support all pages which scsiinfo is
>    interested in. Sd_mod is a different story: After sd_mod accesses
>    page 8, the kernel panics. (This is discussed in another thread. The
>    mentioned sbp2 patch catches this bridge as a skip_ms_page_8
>    candidate too, thus avoids the panic. I will eventually check what
>    sd_mod is doing; the sbp2 patch is not the real fix.)

sd_mod issues MODE SENSE from sd_read_cache_size() and does that twice -
once for minimal length to get the length device wants to give and then
for actual length.

> Of course sg does not care for any black list flags (like sd_mod and 
> sr_mod do), but considering the nature of the bugs and anticipated usage 
> of affected devices, there is hardly a reason for further safeguards in 
> sbp2, let alone sg.

Maybe, maybe not.  Note that e.g. aforementioned INQUIRY bug in pl3507 is
triggered by dmraid, which works via SG_IO, just as scsiinfo.  And unlike
scsiinfo it's run from /etc/rc.sysinit on current FC4...

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-14  2:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-08 20:31 Al Viro
2006-02-08 22:35 ` Stefan Richter
2006-02-08 23:05   ` Al Viro
2006-02-08 23:51     ` Stefan Richter
2006-02-13 16:19     ` Stefan Richter
2006-02-13 17:03       ` Jody McIntyre
2006-02-13 18:18       ` Al Viro
2006-02-13 20:28         ` Stefan Richter
2006-02-14  2:40           ` Al Viro [this message]
2006-02-14  8:37             ` Stefan Richter

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