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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
	Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>, Dave Miller <davem@redhat.com>,
	bzolnier@gmail.com, james.steward@dynamicratings.com,
	jgarzik@pobox.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mattjreimer@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] block: fix PIO cache coherency bug
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:44:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060302204432.GZ4329@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060302203039.GH28895@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Thu, Mar 02 2006, Russell King wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 12:46:28PM -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 17:27 +0900, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > > The objection raised by James Bottomley is that although syncing the
> > > kernel page is the responsbility of the driver, syncing user page is
> > > not; thus, use of flush_dcache_page() is excessive.  James suggested
> > > use of flush_kernel_dcache_page().
> > 
> > The problem is that it's not only excessive, it would entangle us with
> > mm locking.  Basically, all you want to ensure is that the underlying
> > memory has the information after you've done (rather than the CPU
> > cache), flush_kernel_dcache_page() will achieve this.  The block layer
> > itself takes care of user space coherency.
> 
> Your understanding of the problem on ARM remains fundamentally flawed.
> I see no way to resolve this since you don't seem to listen or accept
> my reasoning.
> 
> Therefore, message I'm getting from you is that we are not allowed to
> have an ARM system which can possibly work correctly with PIO.
> 
> As a result, I have no further interest in trying to resolve this issue,
> period.  ARM people will just have to accept that PIO mode IDE drivers
> just will not be an option.

Hey Russell calm down, lets get this thing fixed in the easiest and
least intrusive way for 2.6.17. As mentioned before, this isn't actually
a new problem by any stretch, a 2.6.17 solution would be acceptable to
you I hope.

What do you think of the kmap_atomic_pio() (notoriously bad at names,
but it should get the point across) and kunmap_atomic_pio(), the latter
accepting a read/write flag to note if we wrote to a vm page?

This is basically Tejuns original patch set, just moving it out of the
block layer so it's a generel exported property of the kmap api.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-03-02 20:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-13 15:24 Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 2/8] block: implement blk kmap helpers Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 3/8] block: convert bio kmap helpers to use blk_kmap helpers Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 1/8] highmem: include asm/kmap_types.h in linux/highmem.h Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 5/8] block: convert libata to use blk_kmap helpers Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 4/8] block: convert IDE " Tejun Heo
2006-02-14 19:07   ` Matt Reimer
2006-02-15  2:05     ` Tejun Heo
2006-02-16 18:01       ` Russell King
2006-02-16 18:10         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-16 19:02           ` Russell King
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 6/8] block: convert scsi " Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 8/8] block: convert md " Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 7/8] block: convert block/rd.c " Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:37 ` [PATCHSET] block: fix PIO cache coherency bug Jens Axboe
2006-01-13 15:47 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-01-13 15:50 ` James Bottomley
2006-01-13 18:20   ` Russell King
2006-01-13 18:35     ` James Bottomley
2006-01-13 19:06       ` Russell King
2006-02-22  8:27         ` Tejun Heo
2006-03-02 18:46           ` James Bottomley
2006-03-02 20:30             ` Russell King
2006-03-02 20:43               ` James Bottomley
2006-03-02 20:57                 ` Russell King
2006-03-02 20:44               ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2006-05-29 19:17                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-05-30 11:19                   ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-30 21:07                     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2006-05-30 21:32                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-05-31  0:57                       ` David S. Miller
2006-03-02 20:40           ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-20 16:12           ` James Bottomley
2006-03-20 16:26             ` Tejun Heo
2006-03-20 16:33               ` James Bottomley
2006-03-20 16:40                 ` Tejun Heo
2006-03-20 16:48                   ` James Bottomley
2006-03-23 14:23               ` James Bottomley
2006-03-20 16:50             ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-03-20 16:52               ` James Bottomley
2006-01-13 22:02 ` Russell King
2006-01-13 22:38   ` James Bottomley
2006-01-13 22:43     ` David S. Miller
2006-01-14  4:58       ` James Bottomley
2006-01-17 15:00 ` Jeff Garzik

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