From: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>, Dave Miller <davem@redhat.com>,
bzolnier@gmail.com, james.steward@dynamicratings.com,
jgarzik@pobox.com, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
mattjreimer@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] block: fix PIO cache coherency bug
Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 15:17:40 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0605291509370.11290@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060302204432.GZ4329@suse.de>
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 02 2006, Russell King wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 12:46:28PM -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 17:27 +0900, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > > > The objection raised by James Bottomley is that although syncing the
> > > > kernel page is the responsbility of the driver, syncing user page is
> > > > not; thus, use of flush_dcache_page() is excessive. James suggested
> > > > use of flush_kernel_dcache_page().
> > >
> > > The problem is that it's not only excessive, it would entangle us with
> > > mm locking. Basically, all you want to ensure is that the underlying
> > > memory has the information after you've done (rather than the CPU
> > > cache), flush_kernel_dcache_page() will achieve this. The block layer
> > > itself takes care of user space coherency.
> >
> > Your understanding of the problem on ARM remains fundamentally flawed.
> > I see no way to resolve this since you don't seem to listen or accept
> > my reasoning.
> >
> > Therefore, message I'm getting from you is that we are not allowed to
> > have an ARM system which can possibly work correctly with PIO.
> >
> > As a result, I have no further interest in trying to resolve this issue,
> > period. ARM people will just have to accept that PIO mode IDE drivers
> > just will not be an option.
>
> Hey Russell calm down, lets get this thing fixed in the easiest and
> least intrusive way for 2.6.17. As mentioned before, this isn't actually
> a new problem by any stretch, a 2.6.17 solution would be acceptable to
> you I hope.
Has any discussion about this problem lead to some consensus?
> What do you think of the kmap_atomic_pio() (notoriously bad at names,
> but it should get the point across) and kunmap_atomic_pio(), the latter
> accepting a read/write flag to note if we wrote to a vm page?
>
> This is basically Tejuns original patch set, just moving it out of the
> block layer so it's a generel exported property of the kmap api.
What was the problem with Tejun's patchset already to which RMK (and
many others) agreed?
I do have hardware that exhibits the problem and therefore I wish the
discussion could be resumed.
Nicolas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-29 19:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-13 15:24 Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 1/8] highmem: include asm/kmap_types.h in linux/highmem.h Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 3/8] block: convert bio kmap helpers to use blk_kmap helpers Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 2/8] block: implement blk kmap helpers Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 4/8] block: convert IDE to use blk_kmap helpers Tejun Heo
2006-02-14 19:07 ` Matt Reimer
2006-02-15 2:05 ` Tejun Heo
2006-02-16 18:01 ` Russell King
2006-02-16 18:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-16 19:02 ` Russell King
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 5/8] block: convert libata " Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 6/8] block: convert scsi " Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 7/8] block: convert block/rd.c " Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:24 ` [PATCH 8/8] block: convert md " Tejun Heo
2006-01-13 15:37 ` [PATCHSET] block: fix PIO cache coherency bug Jens Axboe
2006-01-13 15:47 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-01-13 15:50 ` James Bottomley
2006-01-13 18:20 ` Russell King
2006-01-13 18:35 ` James Bottomley
2006-01-13 19:06 ` Russell King
2006-02-22 8:27 ` Tejun Heo
2006-03-02 18:46 ` James Bottomley
2006-03-02 20:30 ` Russell King
2006-03-02 20:43 ` James Bottomley
2006-03-02 20:57 ` Russell King
2006-03-02 20:44 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-29 19:17 ` Nicolas Pitre [this message]
2006-05-30 11:19 ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-30 21:07 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2006-05-30 21:32 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-05-31 0:57 ` David S. Miller
2006-03-02 20:40 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-20 16:12 ` James Bottomley
2006-03-20 16:26 ` Tejun Heo
2006-03-20 16:33 ` James Bottomley
2006-03-20 16:40 ` Tejun Heo
2006-03-20 16:48 ` James Bottomley
2006-03-23 14:23 ` James Bottomley
2006-03-20 16:50 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-03-20 16:52 ` James Bottomley
2006-01-13 22:02 ` Russell King
2006-01-13 22:38 ` James Bottomley
2006-01-13 22:43 ` David S. Miller
2006-01-14 4:58 ` James Bottomley
2006-01-17 15:00 ` Jeff Garzik
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