From: "Björn Steinbrink" <B.Steinbrink@gmx.de>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>,
Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Kingsley Cheung <kingsley@aurema.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>,
Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>,
Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] sched: Add CPU rate caps
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 18:11:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060526161148.GA23680@atjola.homenet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1148630661.7589.65.camel@homer>
On 2006.05.26 10:04:20 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 14:20 +1000, Peter Williams wrote:
> > These patches implement CPU usage rate limits for tasks.
> >
> > Although the rlimit mechanism already has a CPU usage limit (RLIMIT_CPU)
> > it is a total usage limit and therefore (to my mind) not very useful.
> > These patches provide an alternative whereby the (recent) average CPU
> > usage rate of a task can be limited to a (per task) specified proportion
> > of a single CPU's capacity.
>
> The killer problem I see with this approach is that it doesn't address
> the divide and conquer problem. If a task is capped, and forks off
> workers, each worker inherits the total cap, effectively extending same.
>
> IMHO, per task resource management is too severely limited in it's
> usefulness, because jobs are what need managing, and they're seldom
> single threaded. In order to use per task limits to manage any given
> job, you have to both know the number of components, and manually
> distribute resources to each component of the job. If a job has a
> dynamic number of components, it becomes impossible to manage.
Linux-VServer uses a token bucket scheduler (TBS) to limit cpu ressources
for processes in a "context". All processes in a context share one token
bucket, which has a set of parameters to tune scheduling behaviour.
As the token bucket is shared by a group of processes, and inherited by
child processes/threads, management is quite easy. And the parameters
can be tuned to allow different scheduling behaviours, like allowing a
process group to burst, ie. use as much cpu time as is available, after
being idle for some time, but being limited to X % cpu time on average.
I'm CC'ing Herbert and Sam on this as they can explain the whole thing a
lot better and I'm not familiar with implementation details.
Regards
Björn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-26 16:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-26 4:20 Peter Williams
2006-05-26 4:20 ` [RFC 1/5] sched: Fix priority inheritence before CPU rate soft caps Peter Williams
2006-05-26 4:20 ` [RFC 2/5] sched: Add " Peter Williams
2006-05-26 10:48 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-26 11:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-26 11:17 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-26 11:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-26 13:55 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-27 6:31 ` Balbir Singh
2006-05-27 7:03 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-28 0:11 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-28 7:38 ` Balbir Singh
2006-05-28 13:35 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-28 14:42 ` Balbir Singh
2006-05-28 23:27 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-31 13:17 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-05-31 23:39 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-01 8:09 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-01 23:38 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-02 1:35 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-26 4:20 ` [RFC 3/5] sched: Add CPU rate hard caps Peter Williams
2006-05-26 6:58 ` Kari Hurtta
2006-05-27 1:00 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-26 11:00 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-26 13:59 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-26 14:12 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-26 14:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-27 0:16 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-27 9:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-28 2:09 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-27 6:48 ` Balbir Singh
2006-05-27 8:44 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-31 13:10 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-05-31 15:59 ` Balbir Singh
2006-05-31 18:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-01 7:41 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-01 8:34 ` Balbir Singh
2006-06-01 18:43 ` [ckrm-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-06-01 23:26 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-02 2:02 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-06-02 3:21 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-02 8:32 ` Balbir Singh
2006-06-02 13:30 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-02 18:58 ` Balbir Singh
2006-06-02 23:49 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-03 4:59 ` Balbir Singh
2006-06-02 19:06 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-06-03 0:04 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-02 0:36 ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-02 2:03 ` [ckrm-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-06-02 5:55 ` [ckrm-tech] [RFC 3/5] " Peter Williams
2006-06-02 7:47 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-02 13:34 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-05 22:11 ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-06 8:24 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-06 9:13 ` Con Kolivas
2006-06-06 9:28 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-02 8:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-02 13:18 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-02 14:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-03 0:08 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-03 6:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-03 11:03 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-06 11:26 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-06-02 7:34 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-02 21:23 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-01 23:47 ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-01 23:43 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-31 23:28 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-01 7:44 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-01 23:21 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-26 4:21 ` [RFC 4/5] sched: Add procfs interface for CPU rate soft caps Peter Williams
2006-05-26 4:21 ` [RFC 5/5] sched: Add procfs interface for CPU rate hard caps Peter Williams
2006-05-26 8:04 ` [RFC 0/5] sched: Add CPU rate caps Mike Galbraith
2006-05-26 16:11 ` Björn Steinbrink [this message]
2006-05-28 22:46 ` Sam Vilain
2006-05-28 23:30 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-29 3:09 ` Sam Vilain
2006-05-29 3:41 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-29 21:16 ` Sam Vilain
2006-05-29 23:12 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-30 2:07 ` Sam Vilain
2006-05-30 2:45 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-30 22:05 ` Sam Vilain
2006-05-30 23:22 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-30 23:25 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-05 23:56 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-27 0:16 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-26 10:41 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-27 1:28 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-27 1:42 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-26 11:09 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-26 14:00 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-26 11:29 ` Balbir Singh
2006-05-27 1:40 ` Peter Williams
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