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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
To: "Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>
Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	hch@infradead.org, dwmw2@infradead.org, bunk@stusta.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@osdl.org, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: RFC: cleaning up the in-kernel headers
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:37:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060711213733.GB21448@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060711134106.18f6dd2e.rdunlap@xenotime.net>

On Tue, 11 July 2006 13:41:06 -0700, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:41:07 +0200 Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> 
> > > JÃrn Engel IIRC created a perl scrip that did this a year or two ago.
> > > Try googling a bit.
> > http://lkml.org/lkml/2003/10/1/74
> 
> That is version 2 of the script.  There are also versions 3 & 4.
> 
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&w=2&r=1&s=check+headers+for+complete+includes&q=t

Boy, it took me a while to remember what I did back then.  In
principle, the script just compiles trivial c files with a single
#include <linux/foo.h>
inside.

Not too bad in principle, but there were two problems I couldn't
solve:
1. One of the goals should be to make a compile faster, not slower.
Adding further includes hardly helps.
2. It is practically impossible to test every possible combination of
#ifdefs in the various headers pulled in.

Problem 1 would be fairly simple, as the script could be changed
slightly to prune single #include lines from headers and see if they
still compile.  But then there is problem 2.

One possibility to tackly problem 2 would be to create a set of config
files to use for automatic testing.  Instead of compiling once, a
header must get compiled with every config in the set.  Hopefully this
set would not grow too big.

And in the end, there is just so much you can automate.  Humans have
to think about the changes before sending patches.

Jörn

-- 
Optimizations always bust things, because all optimizations are, in
the long haul, a form of cheating, and cheaters eventually get caught.
-- Larry Wall

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-11 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-11 16:06 Adrian Bunk
2006-07-11 16:28 ` David Woodhouse
2006-07-11 17:33   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-07-11 19:34     ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-07-11 19:41       ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-07-11 20:41         ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-07-11 21:37           ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2006-07-11 22:01             ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 22:20               ` Jörn Engel
2006-07-11 22:39               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-11 22:40             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-11 21:04     ` David Woodhouse
2006-07-11 22:24   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-11 17:07 ` Dave Jones
2006-07-11 17:15   ` Joshua Hudson
2006-07-11 18:19     ` Dave Jones
2006-07-11 22:27   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-11 19:05 ` Russell King
2006-07-11 22:19   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-11 20:26 ` [PATCH] Fix broken kernel headers preventing ARM build Russell King
2006-07-13 19:05 ` RFC: cleaning up the in-kernel headers Christoph Lameter
2006-07-15  4:18   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-15  4:59     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-07-17  0:53       ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-20 10:56         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-14  0:11 ` David Woodhouse

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