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From: "Horst H. von Brand" <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>
To: "Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>
Cc: "Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@infradead.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@osdl.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Adrian Bunk" <bunk@stusta.de>
Subject: Re: A proposal; making 2.6.20 a bugfix only version.
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:48:04 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200611101548.kAAFm4EN004162@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from "Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>  of "Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:40:27 BST." <9a8748490611081440u6ba6c541h1038ac1e530e2839@mail.gmail.com>

Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 08/11/06, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > There's no shortage of issues that need fixing, but since we keep
> > > merging new stuff, a lot of bugfixing energy gets spend on the new
> > > cool stuff instead of fixing up any other issues we have.
> >
> > but if you do this you just end up with a bigger backlog so that the
> > next one will even be more unstable due to a extreme high change rate.

> Only if people continue to work on new stuff during the "bug fixing only"
> cycle.  If we manage to get everyone focused on bug fixing only for the
> entire cycle the backlog won't be growing (much).

Sorry, won't work. People working on shiny new toys will just put off
sending in their patches for a cycle, and the usual bugfixers will likewise
just go on doing their stuff.

> > > Coverity has, as of this writing, identified 728 issues in the current
> > > kernel. Sure, some of those have already been identified as false or
> > > ignorable issues, but many are flagged as actual bugs and still more
> > > are as yet uninspected.

> > most are mostly false. And the rest is getting looked at. What's the
> > problem?

> Yes, MANY are false, and I know the rest are getting worked at, I work on
> some myself when time permits.  I mentioned it simply as an indicator
> (one amongst many) that we have a lot of known unfixed issues.

OK, lead by example: Do put off new work and work just on fixing things for
a while. Collect bug reports and make them useful for would-be-fixers. Etc.
-- 
Dr. Horst H. von Brand                   User #22616 counter.li.org
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-11-11  3:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-08 22:09 Jesper Juhl
2006-11-08 22:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-08 22:40   ` Jesper Juhl
2006-11-08 23:05     ` Andreas Mohr
2006-11-08 23:54       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-11-10 15:15     ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-10 15:48     ` Horst H. von Brand [this message]
2006-11-15 21:04       ` Jesper Juhl
2006-11-08 22:51   ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-09  9:26     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-09  9:36       ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-09  9:52         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-09 19:12           ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-09 19:21             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-09 21:11               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-09 21:31                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-09 23:56                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-10  0:18                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-10 17:45                     ` Stefan Richter
2006-11-11 11:00                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-11-08 23:28   ` Diego Calleja
2006-11-09  6:48     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-09 12:45       ` Rolf Eike Beer
2006-11-09  4:57 Al Boldi
2006-11-09 17:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-11-10 15:52   ` Al Boldi
2006-11-10 16:16     ` Jesper Juhl
2006-11-10 16:42       ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-11-10 16:53         ` Randy Dunlap
2006-11-10 19:33           ` Al Boldi
2006-11-10 19:49             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-10 21:22               ` Al Boldi
2006-11-10 21:31                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-11-11  4:15                   ` Al Boldi
2006-11-11  5:09                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-11-11  7:23                       ` David Miller
2006-11-11 11:15                         ` Al Boldi
2006-11-11  6:31                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-11-11 11:15                       ` Al Boldi
2006-11-11  7:15           ` Willy Tarreau
2006-11-11 12:03             ` Neil Brown
2006-11-11 19:16           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-11-11 19:15         ` Adrian Bunk

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