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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Patch -mm 0/3] RFC: module unloading vs. release function
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:11:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070416191120.GA15490@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d120d5000704161203j7c476bb8m1c96d09adb819b6f@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 03:03:16PM -0400, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On 4/16/07, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
> >On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 02:30:17PM -0400, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> >> On 4/16/07, Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> >> >Hi,
> >> >
> >> >based on the discussion in "How should an exit routine wait for
> >> >release() callbacks?", I've cooked up some patches that make module
> >> >unload wait until the last reference for a kobject has been dropped.
> >> >This should plug the "release function in already deleted module" race;
> >> >however, if the last kobject_put() from the module containing the
> >> >release function is not in the module's exit function, there's still a
> >> >small window (not sure if and how to plug this).
> >>
> >> Unfortunately all this "wait for refcount in module's exit" schemas
> >> lead to the following deadlock:
> >>
> >>        rmmod my_module < /path/to/some/file/incrementing/my/refcount
> >
> >No, it should just return "module in use" as the reference count it
> >grabbed before rmmod is called.
> >
> 
> No, because it it were module's refcount we woudl not have problem
> with ->release() to begin with. It is object's refcount.

Yes, but with these patches, we are incrementing that reference count
when the kobject is created, which will cause this to fail.

> >But either way, that's just foolish to try to prevent that from failing
> >:)
> 
> Why? It works now for most of teh subsystems.

That's because it is buggy :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-16 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-16 17:36 Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 18:30 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 18:47   ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 19:03     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:11       ` Greg KH [this message]
2007-04-16 20:20         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:38   ` Alan Stern
2007-04-16 19:47     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:52       ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 20:18         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 21:02           ` Alan Stern
2007-04-17  7:49             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 20:44     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-04-17  2:55       ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-17  7:36     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 18:53 ` Greg KH
2007-04-17 18:41 ` [PATCH RFD] alternative kobject release wait mechanism Tejun Heo
2007-04-17 18:49   ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18  8:11     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18  8:46       ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18  9:35         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18  9:55           ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18  8:07   ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18  8:36     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 14:53   ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 15:26     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 15:34     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 15:45       ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 19:07         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20  5:27           ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20  9:11             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-20 15:01             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 15:57               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-21 15:19                 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 15:40             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-21  0:03               ` Greg KH
2007-04-21 21:36                 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-22 17:40                   ` Greg KH
2007-04-23  7:08                     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-23 19:47                       ` Alan Stern
2007-04-24 19:38                     ` Alan Stern
2007-04-25  9:00                       ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-25 20:13                         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-26  8:21                           ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-26 14:58                             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-26 15:12                               ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 16:11       ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 16:38         ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 16:41       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 12:51         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 13:13           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 13:48             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 14:21               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-20  5:59                 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20 16:35                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-20 16:52                     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20 17:59                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-23  6:40                         ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-23  6:53                           ` Greg KH
2007-04-19 17:19         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-19 18:39           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 22:37             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 16:35               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-21 15:30                 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 15:06   ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 16:06     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-19 13:29       ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 14:20         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-19 14:49           ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-20  9:04             ` Cornelia Huck

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