From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Patch -mm 0/3] RFC: module unloading vs. release function
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:11:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070416191120.GA15490@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d120d5000704161203j7c476bb8m1c96d09adb819b6f@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 03:03:16PM -0400, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On 4/16/07, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
> >On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 02:30:17PM -0400, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> >> On 4/16/07, Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> >> >Hi,
> >> >
> >> >based on the discussion in "How should an exit routine wait for
> >> >release() callbacks?", I've cooked up some patches that make module
> >> >unload wait until the last reference for a kobject has been dropped.
> >> >This should plug the "release function in already deleted module" race;
> >> >however, if the last kobject_put() from the module containing the
> >> >release function is not in the module's exit function, there's still a
> >> >small window (not sure if and how to plug this).
> >>
> >> Unfortunately all this "wait for refcount in module's exit" schemas
> >> lead to the following deadlock:
> >>
> >> rmmod my_module < /path/to/some/file/incrementing/my/refcount
> >
> >No, it should just return "module in use" as the reference count it
> >grabbed before rmmod is called.
> >
>
> No, because it it were module's refcount we woudl not have problem
> with ->release() to begin with. It is object's refcount.
Yes, but with these patches, we are incrementing that reference count
when the kobject is created, which will cause this to fail.
> >But either way, that's just foolish to try to prevent that from failing
> >:)
>
> Why? It works now for most of teh subsystems.
That's because it is buggy :)
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-16 20:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-16 17:36 Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 18:30 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 18:47 ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 19:03 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:11 ` Greg KH [this message]
2007-04-16 20:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:38 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-16 19:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:52 ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 20:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 21:02 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-17 7:49 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 20:44 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-04-17 2:55 ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-17 7:36 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 18:53 ` Greg KH
2007-04-17 18:41 ` [PATCH RFD] alternative kobject release wait mechanism Tejun Heo
2007-04-17 18:49 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 8:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 8:46 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 9:35 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 9:55 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 8:07 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 8:36 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 14:53 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 15:26 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 15:34 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 15:45 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 19:07 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 5:27 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20 9:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-20 15:01 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 15:57 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-21 15:19 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 15:40 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-21 0:03 ` Greg KH
2007-04-21 21:36 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-22 17:40 ` Greg KH
2007-04-23 7:08 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-23 19:47 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-24 19:38 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-25 9:00 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-25 20:13 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-26 8:21 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-26 14:58 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-26 15:12 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 16:11 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 16:38 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 16:41 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 12:51 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 13:13 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 13:48 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 14:21 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-20 5:59 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20 16:35 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-20 16:52 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20 17:59 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-23 6:40 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-23 6:53 ` Greg KH
2007-04-19 17:19 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-19 18:39 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 22:37 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 16:35 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-21 15:30 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 15:06 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 16:06 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-19 13:29 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 14:20 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-19 14:49 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-20 9:04 ` Cornelia Huck
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