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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg K-H <greg@kroah.com>, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFD] alternative kobject release wait mechanism
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:59:21 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <462856B9.9010307@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d120d5000704190721u16be1110ufe04880eded7d54e@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, Dmitry.

Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On 4/19/07, Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:13:43 -0400,
>> "Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Because they are managed by 2 different entities. the struct device
>> > objects are managed by device core and driver-specific objects are
>> > managed by their respective driver.
>>
>> Not sure if I understand you here. My view of this was always that the
>> embedding object was kind of an extended device and that the relevant
>> driver/subsystem managed it through the driver core infrastructure.
>>
> 
> I am not sure if I agree with this point of view. Driver (or
> subsystem) provides an instance of struct device for the rest of the
> system to iteract uniformly with (suspend/resume/tree
> visualization/etc) i.e. struct device implement an interface for
> subsystems. However most of the system use their own mechanisms to
> manage their devices. They can rely on the driver core to a certain
> degree but driver core is mostly a carries out helper functions, not
> the meat.

Many drivers (at least all the SCSI/IDE ones) consider struct device as
the base class of the devices those drivers implement.  I don't think we
can just consider those drivers to be wrong.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-20  5:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-16 17:36 [Patch -mm 0/3] RFC: module unloading vs. release function Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 18:30 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 18:47   ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 19:03     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:11       ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 20:20         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:38   ` Alan Stern
2007-04-16 19:47     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:52       ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 20:18         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 21:02           ` Alan Stern
2007-04-17  7:49             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 20:44     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-04-17  2:55       ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-17  7:36     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 18:53 ` Greg KH
2007-04-17 18:41 ` [PATCH RFD] alternative kobject release wait mechanism Tejun Heo
2007-04-17 18:49   ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18  8:11     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18  8:46       ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18  9:35         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18  9:55           ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18  8:07   ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18  8:36     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 14:53   ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 15:26     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 15:34     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 15:45       ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 19:07         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20  5:27           ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20  9:11             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-20 15:01             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 15:57               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-21 15:19                 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 15:40             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-21  0:03               ` Greg KH
2007-04-21 21:36                 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-22 17:40                   ` Greg KH
2007-04-23  7:08                     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-23 19:47                       ` Alan Stern
2007-04-24 19:38                     ` Alan Stern
2007-04-25  9:00                       ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-25 20:13                         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-26  8:21                           ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-26 14:58                             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-26 15:12                               ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 16:11       ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 16:38         ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 16:41       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 12:51         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 13:13           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 13:48             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 14:21               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-20  5:59                 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2007-04-20 16:35                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-20 16:52                     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20 17:59                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-23  6:40                         ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-23  6:53                           ` Greg KH
2007-04-19 17:19         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-19 18:39           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 22:37             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 16:35               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-21 15:30                 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 15:06   ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 16:06     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-19 13:29       ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 14:20         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-19 14:49           ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-20  9:04             ` Cornelia Huck

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