From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Greg K-H <greg@kroah.com>, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFD] alternative kobject release wait mechanism
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:59:21 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <462856B9.9010307@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d120d5000704190721u16be1110ufe04880eded7d54e@mail.gmail.com>
Hello, Dmitry.
Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On 4/19/07, Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:13:43 -0400,
>> "Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Because they are managed by 2 different entities. the struct device
>> > objects are managed by device core and driver-specific objects are
>> > managed by their respective driver.
>>
>> Not sure if I understand you here. My view of this was always that the
>> embedding object was kind of an extended device and that the relevant
>> driver/subsystem managed it through the driver core infrastructure.
>>
>
> I am not sure if I agree with this point of view. Driver (or
> subsystem) provides an instance of struct device for the rest of the
> system to iteract uniformly with (suspend/resume/tree
> visualization/etc) i.e. struct device implement an interface for
> subsystems. However most of the system use their own mechanisms to
> manage their devices. They can rely on the driver core to a certain
> degree but driver core is mostly a carries out helper functions, not
> the meat.
Many drivers (at least all the SCSI/IDE ones) consider struct device as
the base class of the devices those drivers implement. I don't think we
can just consider those drivers to be wrong.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-20 5:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-16 17:36 [Patch -mm 0/3] RFC: module unloading vs. release function Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 18:30 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 18:47 ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 19:03 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:11 ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 20:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:38 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-16 19:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:52 ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 20:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 21:02 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-17 7:49 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 20:44 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-04-17 2:55 ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-17 7:36 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 18:53 ` Greg KH
2007-04-17 18:41 ` [PATCH RFD] alternative kobject release wait mechanism Tejun Heo
2007-04-17 18:49 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 8:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 8:46 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 9:35 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 9:55 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 8:07 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 8:36 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 14:53 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 15:26 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 15:34 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 15:45 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 19:07 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 5:27 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20 9:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-20 15:01 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 15:57 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-21 15:19 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 15:40 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-21 0:03 ` Greg KH
2007-04-21 21:36 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-22 17:40 ` Greg KH
2007-04-23 7:08 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-23 19:47 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-24 19:38 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-25 9:00 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-25 20:13 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-26 8:21 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-26 14:58 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-26 15:12 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 16:11 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 16:38 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 16:41 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 12:51 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 13:13 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 13:48 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 14:21 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-20 5:59 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2007-04-20 16:35 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-20 16:52 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20 17:59 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-23 6:40 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-23 6:53 ` Greg KH
2007-04-19 17:19 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-19 18:39 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 22:37 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 16:35 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-21 15:30 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 15:06 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 16:06 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-19 13:29 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 14:20 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-19 14:49 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-20 9:04 ` Cornelia Huck
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