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From: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Patch -mm 0/3] RFC: module unloading vs. release function
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:49:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070417094934.2709cd80@gondolin.boeblingen.de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0704161634460.2795-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:02:46 -0400 (EDT),
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:

> > No, only the core module has to stay. For example, every time you
> > register an input device you pin input.ko as it is the module that
> > provides ->release() method for input devices. You can freely unload
> > psmouse, or hid or your favorite joystick but input has to stay until
> > last reference to the input device is dropped. serio and gameport work
> > the same way.
> > 
> > I think the requirement that one is not able to unload a core
> > subsystem module untill all users are dropped off is ok - you can't
> > unload it anyway until you unload all drivers that reference its
> > exported functions and once you unload all the drivers data objects
> > will drop off pretty quickly.
> 
> The problem is that sometimes devices are owned by modules that aren't
> core subsystem modules.  Or the code using a device doesn't depend on the
> device's owner module and therefore doesn't pin it.

Yes. For example, zfcp creates some devices itself that don't have any
relation to the ccw bus. (Other s390 drivers need a simple device; they
use a generic device creation routine that uses a release function that
is always built into s390 kernels.)

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-17  7:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-16 17:36 Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 18:30 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 18:47   ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 19:03     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:11       ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 20:20         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:38   ` Alan Stern
2007-04-16 19:47     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:52       ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 20:18         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 21:02           ` Alan Stern
2007-04-17  7:49             ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2007-04-16 20:44     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-04-17  2:55       ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-17  7:36     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 18:53 ` Greg KH
2007-04-17 18:41 ` [PATCH RFD] alternative kobject release wait mechanism Tejun Heo
2007-04-17 18:49   ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18  8:11     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18  8:46       ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18  9:35         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18  9:55           ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18  8:07   ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18  8:36     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 14:53   ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 15:26     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 15:34     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 15:45       ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 19:07         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20  5:27           ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20  9:11             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-20 15:01             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 15:57               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-21 15:19                 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 15:40             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-21  0:03               ` Greg KH
2007-04-21 21:36                 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-22 17:40                   ` Greg KH
2007-04-23  7:08                     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-23 19:47                       ` Alan Stern
2007-04-24 19:38                     ` Alan Stern
2007-04-25  9:00                       ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-25 20:13                         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-26  8:21                           ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-26 14:58                             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-26 15:12                               ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 16:11       ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 16:38         ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 16:41       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 12:51         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 13:13           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 13:48             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 14:21               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-20  5:59                 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20 16:35                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-20 16:52                     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20 17:59                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-23  6:40                         ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-23  6:53                           ` Greg KH
2007-04-19 17:19         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-19 18:39           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 22:37             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 16:35               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-21 15:30                 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 15:06   ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 16:06     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-19 13:29       ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 14:20         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-19 14:49           ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-20  9:04             ` Cornelia Huck

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