From: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Patch -mm 0/3] RFC: module unloading vs. release function
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:49:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070417094934.2709cd80@gondolin.boeblingen.de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0704161634460.2795-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:02:46 -0400 (EDT),
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > No, only the core module has to stay. For example, every time you
> > register an input device you pin input.ko as it is the module that
> > provides ->release() method for input devices. You can freely unload
> > psmouse, or hid or your favorite joystick but input has to stay until
> > last reference to the input device is dropped. serio and gameport work
> > the same way.
> >
> > I think the requirement that one is not able to unload a core
> > subsystem module untill all users are dropped off is ok - you can't
> > unload it anyway until you unload all drivers that reference its
> > exported functions and once you unload all the drivers data objects
> > will drop off pretty quickly.
>
> The problem is that sometimes devices are owned by modules that aren't
> core subsystem modules. Or the code using a device doesn't depend on the
> device's owner module and therefore doesn't pin it.
Yes. For example, zfcp creates some devices itself that don't have any
relation to the ccw bus. (Other s390 drivers need a simple device; they
use a generic device creation routine that uses a release function that
is always built into s390 kernels.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-17 7:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-16 17:36 Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 18:30 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 18:47 ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 19:03 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:11 ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 20:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:38 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-16 19:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:52 ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 20:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 21:02 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-17 7:49 ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2007-04-16 20:44 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-04-17 2:55 ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-17 7:36 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 18:53 ` Greg KH
2007-04-17 18:41 ` [PATCH RFD] alternative kobject release wait mechanism Tejun Heo
2007-04-17 18:49 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 8:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 8:46 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 9:35 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 9:55 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 8:07 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 8:36 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 14:53 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 15:26 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 15:34 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 15:45 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 19:07 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 5:27 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20 9:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-20 15:01 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 15:57 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-21 15:19 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 15:40 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-21 0:03 ` Greg KH
2007-04-21 21:36 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-22 17:40 ` Greg KH
2007-04-23 7:08 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-23 19:47 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-24 19:38 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-25 9:00 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-25 20:13 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-26 8:21 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-26 14:58 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-26 15:12 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 16:11 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 16:38 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 16:41 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 12:51 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 13:13 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 13:48 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 14:21 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-20 5:59 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20 16:35 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-20 16:52 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20 17:59 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-23 6:40 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-23 6:53 ` Greg KH
2007-04-19 17:19 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-19 18:39 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 22:37 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 16:35 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-21 15:30 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 15:06 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 16:06 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-19 13:29 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 14:20 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-19 14:49 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-20 9:04 ` Cornelia Huck
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