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From: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
To: "Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: "Tejun Heo" <htejun@gmail.com>,
	"Alan Stern" <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Greg K-H" <greg@kroah.com>,
	"Rusty Russell" <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFD] alternative kobject release wait mechanism
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:51:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070419145133.2f7ed45a@gondolin.boeblingen.de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d120d5000704180941pe2ab181xb5eab63b7cc1b297@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:41:36 -0400,
"Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am still do not understand why this is needed. Would it not be
> simplier just to use a reference to struct device instead of embedding
> it in a larger structure if their lifetimes are different and one does
> not have a subsystem that takes care of releasing logic.

Why are their lifetimes different? Usually, if I hold on to the device,
I also want to be able to use the structure that embeds the device.
 
> Pretty much drivers have 2 options:
> 
> struct my_device {
>         void *private_data;
>         struct device dev;
> };
> 
> In this case ->release must live in a subsystem code; individual
> drivers kfree(my_dev->private) and do any additional cleanup after
> calling device_unregister(&my_dev->dev);

They must do this in the ->remove callback.

> 
> Second option:
> 
> struct my_device {
>         type member1;
>         type member2;
> 
>        struct device *dev;
> };
> 
> dev is coming from _device_create(). Driver core takes care of
> releasing dev structure; driver does cleanup of my_device.

device_create() would need to not expect a class then, or it's not
universally usable. Also, the driver would need a method to get back
from the device to my_device. We're practically back at the first
option again, only that now the ->release function is sitting in the
driver core instead of the subsystem.

> With current sysfs orphaning attributes upon removal request there is
> no issue of accessing driver-private data through references obtained
> via ether embedded or referenced dev structure so everything is fine.

Discoupling of sysfs and kobject lifetime rules definetly eliminates a
lot of issues.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-19 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-16 17:36 [Patch -mm 0/3] RFC: module unloading vs. release function Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 18:30 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 18:47   ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 19:03     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:11       ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 20:20         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:38   ` Alan Stern
2007-04-16 19:47     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 19:52       ` Greg KH
2007-04-16 20:18         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-16 21:02           ` Alan Stern
2007-04-17  7:49             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 20:44     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-04-17  2:55       ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-17  7:36     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-16 18:53 ` Greg KH
2007-04-17 18:41 ` [PATCH RFD] alternative kobject release wait mechanism Tejun Heo
2007-04-17 18:49   ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18  8:11     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18  8:46       ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18  9:35         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18  9:55           ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18  8:07   ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18  8:36     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 14:53   ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 15:26     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 15:34     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 15:45       ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 19:07         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20  5:27           ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20  9:11             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-20 15:01             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 15:57               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-21 15:19                 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 15:40             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-21  0:03               ` Greg KH
2007-04-21 21:36                 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-22 17:40                   ` Greg KH
2007-04-23  7:08                     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-23 19:47                       ` Alan Stern
2007-04-24 19:38                     ` Alan Stern
2007-04-25  9:00                       ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-25 20:13                         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-26  8:21                           ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-26 14:58                             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-26 15:12                               ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 16:11       ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 16:38         ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 16:41       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 12:51         ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2007-04-19 13:13           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 13:48             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 14:21               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-20  5:59                 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20 16:35                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-20 16:52                     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-20 17:59                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-23  6:40                         ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-23  6:53                           ` Greg KH
2007-04-19 17:19         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-19 18:39           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-19 22:37             ` Alan Stern
2007-04-20 16:35               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-21 15:30                 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-18 15:06   ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-18 16:06     ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-19 13:29       ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-19 14:20         ` Alan Stern
2007-04-19 14:49           ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-20  9:04             ` Cornelia Huck

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