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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] sleepy linux self-test
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 09:49:22 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200802020949.23397.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080202135037.GC925@elte.hu>

On Saturday 02 February 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> i'd really love to have a /dev/rtc device compatibility APIs, both 
> inside and outside the kernel.

Unfortunately the /dev/rtc code became a legacy API for good reasons.

Like not recognizing that all the world's not a PC, with a single RTC
that clones a long-obsolete chip from Motorola ... and not having been
specified in a hardware-neutral manner.  Oh, and of course not all
systems actually used the same RTC driver anyway; it's not like there
was just *one* such programming interface to worry about.


> I really dont know why the new RTC code  
> does not do it - why does it put up artificial anti-adoption barriers to 
> make it harder to migrate to the new code?

What "anti-adoption" barriers would those be?  Pavel's immediate
problem was easy to solve, though he didn't know it.

>From the perspective of almost anyone not using a PC, all the
adoption barriers were on the side of the /dev/rtc code.

- Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-02 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-30 13:17 Pavel Machek
2008-01-30 16:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-30 16:39   ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-30 19:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-30 23:26   ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-01 14:22     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-02 12:45       ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-02 13:49         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-02 13:51         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-01  1:55 ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2008-02-02 12:47   ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-02 13:50     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-02 17:49       ` David Brownell [this message]
2008-02-02 18:06         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-02 19:47           ` David Brownell
2008-02-02 17:31     ` David Brownell
2008-02-02 17:51       ` David Brownell
2008-02-02 18:00       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-02 19:13         ` David Brownell
2008-02-02 19:32           ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-02 19:38             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-02 19:59               ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-03  2:37               ` David Brownell
2008-02-03  5:05                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-03  5:14                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-03  5:19                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-03  5:35                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-03  5:54                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-03  7:05                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-03  7:32                             ` David Brownell
2008-02-03 12:21                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-03 13:16                                 ` David Brownell
2008-02-03 21:29                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-03 22:42                                     ` David Brownell
2008-02-03 22:43                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-03 22:48                                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-03 23:08                                         ` David Brownell
2008-02-10 21:03                                           ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-18  8:56                                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-18  9:46                                     ` [patch] suspend/resume self-test Ingo Molnar
2008-02-18  9:53                                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-18 10:40                                         ` David Brownell
2008-02-18 11:04                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-18 13:09                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-18 20:16                                             ` David Brownell
2008-02-19 10:11                                               ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-19 14:43                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19 19:12                                                   ` David Brownell
2008-02-20 10:15                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19 14:40                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-18 11:06                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-10 21:02                           ` [linux-pm] sleepy linux self-test Pavel Machek
2008-02-03  7:18                     ` David Brownell
2008-02-03  7:51                       ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-03  8:26                         ` David Brownell

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