From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Breakage caused by unreviewed patch in x86 tree
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:11:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080427161105.0b452fe4@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1209337439.3801.84.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:03:59 -0400
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-04-27 at 15:58 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:51:25 -0400
> > James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> wrote:
> > When you're mapping device memory, uncached is the safe default.
>
> Well, for certain device mailboxes, uncached does mean less
> performant. The voyager breakage was exceptional ... I expect other
> problems just to result in a loss of performance that caching gave by
> improving the bursting. If we're lucky, the PCI bridge cache might
> hide a lot of this.
on a PC, NONE of the ioremap()s of PCI stuff were cached before, with the
exception of prefetchable ranges, that some bioses set up a write-combining MTRR for.
(and write-combining is effectively "uncached but with write buffering")
If you look at at what kind of devices have prefetchable ranges, you get two answers:
1) video cards
2) some IB adapters
So your argument that this might change PCI stuff is just false.
Your argument that this "99.9%->100% uncached" should have been announced/discussed
in public, sure. But to make this big a deal out of it?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-27 23:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-27 20:51 James Bottomley
2008-04-27 20:53 ` David Miller
2008-04-27 21:48 ` [patch] x86, voyager: fix ioremap_nocache() Ingo Molnar
2008-04-27 22:05 ` James Bottomley
2008-04-27 22:36 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-27 22:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-27 23:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-27 23:31 ` David Miller
2008-04-28 0:31 ` Rik van Riel
2008-04-28 0:45 ` Al Viro
2008-04-28 0:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-28 9:01 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-28 9:17 ` David Miller
2008-04-28 9:48 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-28 11:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-28 6:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28 16:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-27 22:34 ` James Bottomley
2008-04-27 22:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-27 22:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-27 22:46 ` David Miller
2008-04-27 22:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-27 22:58 ` David Miller
2008-04-27 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-30 20:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-04-27 23:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-27 23:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-27 22:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-27 22:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-27 22:59 ` David Miller
2008-04-27 23:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-27 23:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-27 23:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-30 21:44 ` James Bottomley
2008-04-30 22:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-27 23:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-04-28 14:10 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-28 14:29 ` James Bottomley
2008-04-28 15:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-28 19:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-27 22:00 ` Breakage caused by unreviewed patch in x86 tree H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-27 22:10 ` James Bottomley
2008-04-27 22:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-27 22:18 ` James Bottomley
2008-04-27 22:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-27 22:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-27 23:00 ` David Miller
2008-04-27 23:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-27 23:03 ` James Bottomley
2008-04-27 23:11 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2008-04-27 23:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
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