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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: akpm@linux-foundation.org
Cc: gorcunov@gmail.com, tytso@mit.edu, hch@infradead.org,
	viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:10:46 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080521.131046.242739198.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080521123127.3b3b66af.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 12:31:27 -0700

> The #1 project for all kernel beginners should surely be "make sure
> that the kernel runs perfectly at all times on all machines which you
> can lay your hands on".  Usually the way to do this is to work with
> others on getting things fixed up (this can require persistence!) but
> that's fine - it's a part of kernel development.

Indeed.  A lot of the time I see new people, or people making
suggestions to them, so fixated on wanting to implement new features.

To me that is absolutely the wrong way to go about this.

It's so much more useful, for both the community and the individual,
to fix bugs.  Fixing a bug forces you to learn how the kernel works at
least on some level, and fixing a bug always makes Linux better.

Implementing a new feature does not necessarily have either of those
two important qualities, so it is never the place for new people to
start.

Fixing bugs will give someone a real identity and place in the
community.

You want real Linux kernel "street cred"?  Fix a lot of bugs, then you
can implement a thousand new features and people will take you
seriously because you've shown that you can and will fix things.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-21 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-21  5:58 [PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments Jianjun Kong
2008-05-21  7:19 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-05-21 11:35   ` David Newall
2008-05-21  8:34 ` CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments) Al Viro
2008-05-21  8:50   ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21  9:19     ` CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org David Miller
2008-05-21  9:41     ` CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments) Al Viro
2008-05-21 17:44       ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 19:45         ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-21 20:38           ` Rene Herman
2008-05-21 20:50             ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 21:08               ` Rene Herman
2008-05-21 21:12                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 21:32                   ` Rene Herman
2008-05-22 19:40           ` Jaya Kumar
2008-05-21 10:32     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-21 12:09       ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-21 17:46         ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 18:57           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-05-21 19:31             ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 20:10               ` David Miller [this message]
2008-05-21 21:25                 ` CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org Willy Tarreau
2008-05-21 21:44                   ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-21 21:56                     ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-21 21:08               ` CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments) Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-05-21 23:01               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-21 23:17                 ` Rene Herman
2008-05-21 23:55                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-22  0:10                     ` Rene Herman
2008-05-22 14:31                       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-21 23:35                 ` Al Viro
2008-05-22  0:38                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-22  1:05                     ` Alan Cox
2008-05-22 16:08                 ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-21 19:33             ` Randy Dunlap
2008-05-21 19:45               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-05-21 19:54                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 20:06                   ` Jesper Juhl
2008-05-21 20:27                     ` CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments), " Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-21 20:37                       ` Jesper Juhl
2008-05-21 23:46                         ` Jesper Juhl
2008-05-22  0:12                           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-22  0:32                             ` Jesper Juhl
2008-05-22  1:03                             ` Alan Cox
2008-05-22 14:56                             ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-22 15:29                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-22  0:14                           ` Al Viro
2008-05-22  0:34                             ` Jesper Juhl
2008-05-22  1:07                           ` Johannes Weiner
2008-05-22  4:51                           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-05-22  5:34                           ` david
2008-05-31 16:23                           ` Nick Andrew
2008-05-21 19:42             ` Johannes Weiner
2008-05-21 19:47               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-05-21 19:49           ` CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org David Miller
2008-05-21 22:03             ` Al Viro

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