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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
Cc: tytso@mit.edu, hch@infradead.org, viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 12:31:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080521123127.3b3b66af.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080521185725.GD6932@cvg>

On Wed, 21 May 2008 22:57:25 +0400
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com> wrote:

> Btw, we have CodingStyle, SubmittingPatches and other, but why don't
> we have something like KernelNewbieGuide? Don't get me wrong, but
> there could be written all rules about - what is good to do, what is bad.
> So a newbiew who wants to be usefull for kernel could read it and decide
> what should be done. /Don't beat me ;) / And of course I know about
> kernelnewbie.org but this (even quite short) document could help I think.

There are a lot of people out there who would like to try their hands
at kernel.org development but who just aren't sure how to start, nor
where to start.

One could understand a developer deciding to write a do-nothing
whitespace patch as a general throat-clearing exercise, but when asked,
I recommend against that.  I generally recommend that people just
download and test the latest -rc, linux-next and -mm kernels and build
and run them.  Because they surely will find things which need fixing. 
Often simple little things like compilation errors, sometimes things
which need a bisection search.

For more substantial starter projects the best we have (as far as I
know) is http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelProjects, but that's just a
teeny subset.

We're not very good at this, I'm afraid.  I seem to recall that Rik has
offered to help out here, so perhaps whenever one notices a
hey-someone-should-do-this project, it could be forwarded to Rik and he
can put it up there.

The #1 project for all kernel beginners should surely be "make sure
that the kernel runs perfectly at all times on all machines which you
can lay your hands on".  Usually the way to do this is to work with
others on getting things fixed up (this can require persistence!) but
that's fine - it's a part of kernel development.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-21 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-21  5:58 [PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments Jianjun Kong
2008-05-21  7:19 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-05-21 11:35   ` David Newall
2008-05-21  8:34 ` CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments) Al Viro
2008-05-21  8:50   ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21  9:19     ` CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org David Miller
2008-05-21  9:41     ` CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments) Al Viro
2008-05-21 17:44       ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 19:45         ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-21 20:38           ` Rene Herman
2008-05-21 20:50             ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 21:08               ` Rene Herman
2008-05-21 21:12                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 21:32                   ` Rene Herman
2008-05-22 19:40           ` Jaya Kumar
2008-05-21 10:32     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-21 12:09       ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-21 17:46         ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 18:57           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-05-21 19:31             ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-05-21 20:10               ` CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org David Miller
2008-05-21 21:25                 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-21 21:44                   ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-21 21:56                     ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-21 21:08               ` CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments) Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-05-21 23:01               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-21 23:17                 ` Rene Herman
2008-05-21 23:55                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-22  0:10                     ` Rene Herman
2008-05-22 14:31                       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-21 23:35                 ` Al Viro
2008-05-22  0:38                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-22  1:05                     ` Alan Cox
2008-05-22 16:08                 ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-21 19:33             ` Randy Dunlap
2008-05-21 19:45               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-05-21 19:54                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 20:06                   ` Jesper Juhl
2008-05-21 20:27                     ` CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments), " Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-21 20:37                       ` Jesper Juhl
2008-05-21 23:46                         ` Jesper Juhl
2008-05-22  0:12                           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-22  0:32                             ` Jesper Juhl
2008-05-22  1:03                             ` Alan Cox
2008-05-22 14:56                             ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-22 15:29                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-22  0:14                           ` Al Viro
2008-05-22  0:34                             ` Jesper Juhl
2008-05-22  1:07                           ` Johannes Weiner
2008-05-22  4:51                           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-05-22  5:34                           ` david
2008-05-31 16:23                           ` Nick Andrew
2008-05-21 19:42             ` Johannes Weiner
2008-05-21 19:47               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-05-21 19:49           ` CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org David Miller
2008-05-21 22:03             ` Al Viro

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