From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: "Fischer, Anna" <anna.fischer@hp.com>
Cc: H L <swdevyid@yahoo.com>,
"randy.dunlap@oracle.com" <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
"grundler@parisc-linux.org" <grundler@parisc-linux.org>,
"Chiang, Alexander" <achiang@hp.com>,
"matthew@wil.cx" <matthew@wil.cx>,
"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
"rdreier@cisco.com" <rdreier@cisco.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org" <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/16 v6] PCI: Linux kernel SR-IOV support
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:03:54 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081106180354.GA17429@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0199E0D51A61344794750DC57738F58E5E26F996C4@GVW1118EXC.americas.hpqcorp.net>
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 05:38:16PM +0000, Fischer, Anna wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 08:41:53AM -0800, H L wrote:
> > > I have not modified any existing drivers, but instead I threw
> > together
> > > a bare-bones module enabling me to make a call to pci_iov_register()
> > > and then poke at an SR-IOV adapter's /sys entries for which no driver
> > > was loaded.
> > >
> > > It appears from my perusal thus far that drivers using these new
> > > SR-IOV patches will require modification; i.e. the driver associated
> > > with the Physical Function (PF) will be required to make the
> > > pci_iov_register() call along with the requisite notify() function.
> > > Essentially this suggests to me a model for the PF driver to perform
> > > any "global actions" or setup on behalf of VFs before enabling them
> > > after which VF drivers could be associated.
> >
> > Where would the VF drivers have to be associated? On the "pci_dev"
> > level or on a higher one?
>
> A VF appears to the Linux OS as a standard (full, additional) PCI
> device. The driver is associated in the same way as for a normal PCI
> device. Ideally, you would use SR-IOV devices on a virtualized system,
> for example, using Xen. A VF can then be assigned to a guest domain as
> a full PCI device.
It's that "second" part that I'm worried about. How is that going to
happen? Do you have any patches that show this kind of "assignment"?
> > Will all drivers that want to bind to a "VF" device need to be
> > rewritten?
>
> Currently, any vendor providing a SR-IOV device needs to provide a PF
> driver and a VF driver that runs on their hardware.
Are there any such drivers available yet?
> A VF driver does not necessarily need to know much about SR-IOV but
> just run on the presented PCI device. You might want to have a
> communication channel between PF and VF driver though, for various
> reasons, if such a channel is not provided in hardware.
Agreed, but what does that channel look like in Linux?
I have some ideas of what I think it should look like, but if people
already have code, I'd love to see that as well.
> > > I have so far only seen Yu Zhao's "7-patch" set. I've not yet looked
> > > at his subsequently tendered "15-patch" set so I don't know what has
> > > changed. The hardware/firmware implementation for any given SR-IOV
> > > compatible device, will determine the extent of differences required
> > > between a PF driver and a VF driver.
> >
> > Yeah, that's what I'm worried/curious about. Without seeing the code
> > for such a driver, how can we properly evaluate if this infrastructure
> > is the correct one and the proper way to do all of this?
>
> Yu's API allows a PF driver to register with the Linux PCI code and
> use it to activate VFs and allocate their resources. The PF driver
> needs to be modified to work with that API. While you can argue about
> how that API is supposed to look like, it is clear that such an API is
> required in some form.
I totally agree, I'm arguing about what that API looks like :)
I want to see some code...
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-06 18:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-22 8:38 Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:40 ` [PATCH 1/16 v6] PCI: remove unnecessary arg of pci_update_resource() Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:40 ` [PATCH 2/16 v6] PCI: define PCI resource names in an 'enum' Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:24 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-22 14:44 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:51 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-22 14:53 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-14 0:43 ` Simon Horman
2008-10-22 8:41 ` [PATCH 3/16 v6] PCI: export __pci_read_base Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:41 ` [PATCH 4/16 v6] PCI: make pci_alloc_child_bus() be able to handle NULL bridge Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:41 ` [PATCH 5/16 v6] PCI: add a wrapper for resource_alignment() Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:42 ` [PATCH 6/16 v6] PCI: add a new function to map BAR offset Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:42 ` [PATCH 7/16 v6] PCI: cleanup pcibios_allocate_resources() Yu Zhao
2008-10-23 7:10 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-10-23 6:50 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:43 ` [PATCH 8/16 v6] PCI: add boot options to reassign resources Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:35 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-22 14:49 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:43 ` [PATCH 9/16 v6] PCI: add boot option to align MMIO resources Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:34 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-22 14:52 ` Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:43 ` [PATCH 10/16 v6] PCI: cleanup pci_bus_add_devices() Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:44 ` [PATCH 11/16 v6] PCI: split a new function from pci_bus_add_devices() Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:44 ` [PATCH 12/16 v6] PCI: support the SR-IOV capability Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:44 ` [PATCH 13/16 v6] PCI: reserve bus range for SR-IOV device Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:45 ` [PATCH 14/16 v6] PCI: document for SR-IOV user and developer Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 8:45 ` [PATCH 15/16 v6] PCI: document the SR-IOV sysfs entries Yu Zhao
2008-11-06 4:33 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 4:46 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 3:01 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 3:18 ` Greg KH
2008-11-13 6:50 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-14 0:55 ` Greg KH
2008-11-17 8:09 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-18 15:05 ` Greg KH
2008-11-18 16:49 ` Kay Sievers
2008-10-22 8:45 ` [PATCH 16/16 v6] PCI: document the new PCI boot parameters Yu Zhao
2008-10-22 14:27 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-22 17:01 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-11-06 4:32 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 2:37 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 2:50 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 3:40 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 4:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-12-11 1:43 ` Yu Zhao
2008-12-11 4:33 ` Grant Grundler
2008-12-11 15:39 ` H L
2008-11-07 6:16 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 7:50 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 8:02 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 8:17 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 8:24 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 8:35 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 18:53 ` Greg KH
2008-11-08 5:00 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-08 5:25 ` Greg KH
2008-11-08 6:05 ` Yu Zhao
[not found] ` <fe8256d20811072150o1d82e8bdq40bf61df0a3faebe@mail.gmail.com>
2008-11-08 5:54 ` Greg KH
2008-11-09 14:19 ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-09 14:34 ` Alexander Graf
2008-11-06 4:48 ` [PATCH 0/16 v6] PCI: Linux kernel SR-IOV support Greg KH
2008-11-06 15:40 ` H L
2008-11-06 15:43 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 16:41 ` H L
2008-11-06 16:49 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 17:38 ` Fischer, Anna
2008-11-06 18:03 ` Greg KH [this message]
2008-11-06 20:04 ` Fischer, Anna
2008-11-09 12:44 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-09 19:25 ` Greg KH
2008-11-09 19:37 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-11 6:08 ` Greg KH
2008-11-11 9:00 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-06 18:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-06 22:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06 22:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-07 6:19 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 15:17 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-07 18:48 ` Greg KH
2008-11-08 11:09 ` Fischer, Anna
2008-11-08 15:37 ` Leonid Grossman
2008-11-13 7:49 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-09 12:47 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-07 1:52 ` Dong, Eddie
2008-11-07 2:08 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-11-07 15:21 ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-09 12:53 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-07 16:01 ` Yu Zhao
[not found] ` <87d4h7pnnm.fsf__4937.77150190926$1226071173$gmane$org@basil.nowhere.org>
2008-11-12 22:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-16 16:04 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-17 1:46 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-06 17:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-06 17:53 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 22:24 ` Simon Horman
2008-11-06 22:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-07 6:17 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 7:47 ` Zhao, Yu
[not found] ` <200811111048.45242.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2008-11-17 12:01 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-09 12:58 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-09 6:41 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-11-09 13:03 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-06 23:54 ` Chris Wright
2008-11-07 6:10 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 7:06 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 7:29 ` Leonid Grossman
2008-11-06 18:05 ` H L
2008-11-06 18:24 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 21:35 ` Fischer, Anna
2008-11-07 6:18 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 6:03 ` Zhao, Yu
2008-11-06 16:51 ` git repository for SR-IOV development? H L
2008-11-06 16:59 ` Greg KH
2008-11-06 19:58 ` H L
2008-11-06 22:56 ` Simon Horman
2008-11-07 1:58 ` Greg KH
2008-11-07 13:09 ` Yu Zhao
2008-11-07 5:18 ` [PATCH 0/16 v6] PCI: Linux kernel SR-IOV support Zhao, Yu
2008-11-07 6:07 ` Greg KH
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20081106180354.GA17429@kroah.com \
--to=greg@kroah.com \
--cc=achiang@hp.com \
--cc=anna.fischer@hp.com \
--cc=grundler@parisc-linux.org \
--cc=jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org \
--cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-pci@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=matthew@wil.cx \
--cc=mingo@elte.hu \
--cc=randy.dunlap@oracle.com \
--cc=rdreier@cisco.com \
--cc=swdevyid@yahoo.com \
--cc=virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox
Powered by JetHome