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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Wei Ni <wni@nvidia.com>,
	khali@linux-fr.org, swarren@wwwdotorg.org,
	lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] hwmon: (lm90) Add power control
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:50:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130909155043.GA18975@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130909135022.GZ29403@sirena.org.uk>

On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 02:50:22PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 04:34:43AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > On 09/09/2013 04:12 AM, Mark Brown wrote:
> > >On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 06:29:11PM +0800, Wei Ni wrote:
> 
> > >This doesn't look good, it is going to ignore actual errors - I *really*
> > >doubt that vcc is optional, it looks like it's the main power supply for
> > >the device.  You should use normal regulator_get(), _optional() is for
> > >supplies which could physically not be provided in a system (eg, if the
> > >device can generate them internally if required).
> 
> > Then he'll have to make sure that all devicetree files in the system
> > contain references to this regulator.
> 
> Or get the patches applied on top of the code that'll be going in this
> cycle implementing get_optional() properly - when that's done the
> default will be to provide a dummy supply for regulator_get().  If you
> ack the patch I'd be happy to carry it.
> 
Jean will have to ack it.

> > >Also do you really need 25ms after power on?
> 
> > I had not noticed, but I recommend to reject the patch because of it.
> > If we add 25ms delay to each driver, booting the system will take as
> > long as booting windows. If enabling the regulator needs time, the
> > regulator subsystem should do it.
> 
> And indeed it does this (well, it does whatever the driver says in terms
> of delay).  However it is possible that the lm90 needs this time for
> itself - if it's doing some sort of initialisation or callibration
> sequence then that'll happen after the supplies come up.  25ms did seem
> rather long, especially for such simple devices, but it's not beyond the
> bounds of possibility.

Even then it would be unreasonable to enforce such a delay for every instance
of this driver, even if the regulator is a dummy one and/or has been enabled
already. Many if not almost all users of the driver work just fine as-is,
without additional enforced delay (and, for that matter, without regulator ;).

If there is a delay, it would have to be optional: Only wait if the regulator
was really turned on by the call and not already active. I don't know if the
regulator subsystem has this capability; if not, maybe it should.

On a higher level, I wonder if such functionality should be added in the i2c
subsystem and not in i2c client drivers. Has anyone thought about this ?

Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-09 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-09 10:29 [PATCH v3 0/2] Add power control for lm90 Wei Ni
2013-09-09 10:29 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] hwmon: (lm90) Add power control Wei Ni
2013-09-09 11:12   ` Mark Brown
2013-09-09 11:34     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-09-09 13:50       ` Mark Brown
2013-09-09 15:50         ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2013-09-09 16:02           ` Mark Brown
2013-09-09 16:17             ` Guenter Roeck
2013-09-09 20:39               ` Mark Brown
2013-09-10  4:05                 ` Wei Ni
2013-09-10  4:50                   ` Guenter Roeck
2013-09-10  5:39                     ` Wei Ni
2013-09-10  5:54                       ` Guenter Roeck
2013-09-10  6:30                         ` Wei Ni
2013-09-10 10:13                       ` Mark Brown
2013-09-10 11:29                         ` Wei Ni
2013-09-10 12:11                           ` Mark Brown
2013-09-11  9:40                             ` Wei Ni
2013-09-10  3:22           ` Wei Ni
2013-09-10  3:36             ` Guenter Roeck
2013-09-10  3:40               ` Stephen Warren
2013-09-10  3:53                 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-09-10  4:12                   ` Wei Ni
2013-09-10  4:13                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-09-10  4:44                     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-09-10 10:09                     ` Mark Brown
2013-09-10 15:07                       ` Stephen Warren
2013-09-10 17:04                         ` Mark Brown
2013-09-10 17:44                           ` Stephen Warren
2013-09-10 18:07                             ` Guenter Roeck
2013-09-10 18:18                             ` Mark Brown
2013-09-10 18:37                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-09-10 18:52                                 ` Mark Brown
2013-09-11 11:35                                   ` Wei Ni
2013-09-10 17:05             ` Mark Brown
2013-09-09 10:29 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] Documentation: dt: hwmon: add OF document for LM90 Wei Ni
2013-09-09 10:52   ` Guenter Roeck
2013-09-09 22:14     ` Stephen Warren
2013-09-10  4:25       ` Wei Ni
2013-09-09 10:57   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-10  4:35     ` Wei Ni
2013-09-10  4:36       ` Wei Ni
2013-09-09 22:15   ` Stephen Warren
2013-09-09 22:23     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-09-10  4:25       ` Wei Ni

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