From: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
To: Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Jiaan Lu <jiaan.lu@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 00/11] Intel IA32_SPEC_CTRL Virtualization
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 15:10:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230414221017.i4nfrcxrbxlznrxk@desk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e956f4b9-34a1-de7b-2157-0101b586ab46@linux.intel.com>
On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 05:51:43PM +0800, Binbin Wu wrote:
>
> On 4/14/2023 2:25 PM, Chao Gao wrote:
> > Changes since RFC v1:
> > * add two kselftests (patch 10-11)
> > * set virtual MSRs also on APs [Pawan]
> > * enable "virtualize IA32_SPEC_CTRL" for L2 to prevent L2 from changing
> > some bits of IA32_SPEC_CTRL (patch 4)
> > * other misc cleanup and cosmetic changes
> >
> > RFC v1: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221210160046.2608762-1-chen.zhang@intel.com/
> >
> >
> > This series introduces "virtualize IA32_SPEC_CTRL" support. Here are
> > introduction and use cases of this new feature.
> >
> > ### Virtualize IA32_SPEC_CTRL
> >
> > "Virtualize IA32_SPEC_CTRL" [1] is a new VMX feature on Intel CPUs. This feature
> > allows VMM to lock some bits of IA32_SPEC_CTRL MSR even when the MSR is
> > pass-thru'd to a guest.
> >
> >
> > ### Use cases of "virtualize IA32_SPEC_CTRL" [2]
> >
> > Software mitigations like Retpoline and software BHB-clearing sequence depend on
> > CPU microarchitectures. And guest cannot know exactly the underlying
> > microarchitecture. When a guest is migrated between processors of different
> > microarchitectures, software mitigations which work perfectly on previous
> > microachitecture may be not effective on the new one. To fix the problem, some
> > hardware mitigations should be used in conjunction with software mitigations.
>
> So even the hardware mitigations are enabled, the software mitigations are
> still needed, right?
Retpoline mitigation is not fully effective when RET can take prediction
from an alternate predictor. Newer hardware provides a way to disable
this behavior (using RRSBA_DIS_S bit in MSR SPEC_CTRL).
eIBRS is the preferred way to mitigate BTI, but for some reason when a
guest has deployed retpoline, VMM can make it more effective by
deploying the relevant hardware control. That is why the above text
says:
"... hardware mitigations should be used in conjunction with software
mitigations."
prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-14 22:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-14 6:25 Chao Gao
2023-04-14 6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/11] x86/msr-index: Add bit definitions for BHI_DIS_S and BHI_NO Chao Gao
2023-04-14 9:52 ` Binbin Wu
2023-04-14 6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/11] KVM: x86: Advertise CPUID.7.2.EDX and RRSBA_CTRL support Chao Gao
2023-04-16 7:04 ` Binbin Wu
2023-04-16 13:25 ` Chao Gao
2023-05-15 6:53 ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-16 2:04 ` Chao Gao
2023-05-16 2:22 ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-16 3:01 ` Chao Gao
2023-05-16 7:03 ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-16 9:09 ` Chao Gao
2023-05-18 9:50 ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-19 9:43 ` Chao Gao
2023-04-14 6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/11] KVM: x86: Advertise BHI_CTRL support Chao Gao
2023-05-15 7:14 ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-04-14 6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/11] KVM: VMX: Add IA32_SPEC_CTRL virtualization support Chao Gao
2023-04-17 3:17 ` Binbin Wu
2023-04-18 2:07 ` Chao Gao
2023-04-17 6:48 ` Chenyi Qiang
2023-04-17 7:31 ` Chao Gao
2023-05-16 7:16 ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-16 9:20 ` Chao Gao
2023-04-14 6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/11] x86/bugs: Use Virtual MSRs to request hardware mitigations Chao Gao
2023-04-17 13:43 ` Binbin Wu
2023-04-18 2:01 ` Chao Gao
2023-04-14 6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/11] KVM: x86: Advertise ARCH_CAP_VIRTUAL_ENUM support Chao Gao
2023-05-18 10:14 ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-19 9:57 ` Chao Gao
2023-05-22 1:02 ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-04-14 6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/11] KVM: VMX: Advertise MITIGATION_CTRL support Chao Gao
2023-04-14 6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/11] KVM: VMX: Advertise MITI_ENUM_RETPOLINE_S_SUPPORT Chao Gao
2023-05-18 10:25 ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-19 10:26 ` Chao Gao
2023-05-22 9:43 ` Liu, Jingqi
2023-04-14 6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/11] KVM: VMX: Advertise MITI_CTRL_BHB_CLEAR_SEQ_S_SUPPORT Chao Gao
2023-05-22 9:41 ` Liu, Jingqi
2023-04-14 6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/11] KVM: selftests: Add tests for virtual enumeration/mitigation MSRs Chao Gao
2023-05-22 9:39 ` Liu, Jingqi
2023-04-14 6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/11] KVM: selftests: Add tests for IA32_SPEC_CTRL MSR Chao Gao
2023-04-14 9:51 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/11] Intel IA32_SPEC_CTRL Virtualization Binbin Wu
2023-04-14 22:10 ` Pawan Gupta [this message]
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