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From: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
To: Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Jiaan Lu <jiaan.lu@intel.com>,
	Alexandre Chartre <alexandre.chartre@oracle.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Daniel Sneddon <daniel.sneddon@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
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	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
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	Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@amd.com>,
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	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Sandipan Das <sandipan.das@amd.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Zhang Chen <chen.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 00/11] Intel IA32_SPEC_CTRL Virtualization
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 15:10:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230414221017.i4nfrcxrbxlznrxk@desk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e956f4b9-34a1-de7b-2157-0101b586ab46@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 05:51:43PM +0800, Binbin Wu wrote:
> 
> On 4/14/2023 2:25 PM, Chao Gao wrote:
> > Changes since RFC v1:
> >   * add two kselftests (patch 10-11)
> >   * set virtual MSRs also on APs [Pawan]
> >   * enable "virtualize IA32_SPEC_CTRL" for L2 to prevent L2 from changing
> >     some bits of IA32_SPEC_CTRL (patch 4)
> >   * other misc cleanup and cosmetic changes
> > 
> > RFC v1: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221210160046.2608762-1-chen.zhang@intel.com/
> > 
> > 
> > This series introduces "virtualize IA32_SPEC_CTRL" support. Here are
> > introduction and use cases of this new feature.
> > 
> > ### Virtualize IA32_SPEC_CTRL
> > 
> > "Virtualize IA32_SPEC_CTRL" [1] is a new VMX feature on Intel CPUs. This feature
> > allows VMM to lock some bits of IA32_SPEC_CTRL MSR even when the MSR is
> > pass-thru'd to a guest.
> > 
> > 
> > ### Use cases of "virtualize IA32_SPEC_CTRL" [2]
> > 
> > Software mitigations like Retpoline and software BHB-clearing sequence depend on
> > CPU microarchitectures. And guest cannot know exactly the underlying
> > microarchitecture. When a guest is migrated between processors of different
> > microarchitectures, software mitigations which work perfectly on previous
> > microachitecture may be not effective on the new one. To fix the problem, some
> > hardware mitigations should be used in conjunction with software mitigations.
> 
> So even the hardware mitigations are enabled, the software mitigations are
> still needed, right?

Retpoline mitigation is not fully effective when RET can take prediction
from an alternate predictor. Newer hardware provides a way to disable
this behavior (using RRSBA_DIS_S bit in MSR SPEC_CTRL).

eIBRS is the preferred way to mitigate BTI, but for some reason when a
guest has deployed retpoline, VMM can make it more effective by
deploying the relevant hardware control. That is why the above text
says:

  "... hardware mitigations should be used in conjunction with software
  mitigations."

      reply	other threads:[~2023-04-14 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-14  6:25 Chao Gao
2023-04-14  6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/11] x86/msr-index: Add bit definitions for BHI_DIS_S and BHI_NO Chao Gao
2023-04-14  9:52   ` Binbin Wu
2023-04-14  6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/11] KVM: x86: Advertise CPUID.7.2.EDX and RRSBA_CTRL support Chao Gao
2023-04-16  7:04   ` Binbin Wu
2023-04-16 13:25     ` Chao Gao
2023-05-15  6:53   ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-16  2:04     ` Chao Gao
2023-05-16  2:22       ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-16  3:01         ` Chao Gao
2023-05-16  7:03           ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-16  9:09             ` Chao Gao
2023-05-18  9:50               ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-19  9:43                 ` Chao Gao
2023-04-14  6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/11] KVM: x86: Advertise BHI_CTRL support Chao Gao
2023-05-15  7:14   ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-04-14  6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/11] KVM: VMX: Add IA32_SPEC_CTRL virtualization support Chao Gao
2023-04-17  3:17   ` Binbin Wu
2023-04-18  2:07     ` Chao Gao
2023-04-17  6:48   ` Chenyi Qiang
2023-04-17  7:31     ` Chao Gao
2023-05-16  7:16   ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-16  9:20     ` Chao Gao
2023-04-14  6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/11] x86/bugs: Use Virtual MSRs to request hardware mitigations Chao Gao
2023-04-17 13:43   ` Binbin Wu
2023-04-18  2:01     ` Chao Gao
2023-04-14  6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/11] KVM: x86: Advertise ARCH_CAP_VIRTUAL_ENUM support Chao Gao
2023-05-18 10:14   ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-19  9:57     ` Chao Gao
2023-05-22  1:02       ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-04-14  6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/11] KVM: VMX: Advertise MITIGATION_CTRL support Chao Gao
2023-04-14  6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/11] KVM: VMX: Advertise MITI_ENUM_RETPOLINE_S_SUPPORT Chao Gao
2023-05-18 10:25   ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-19 10:26     ` Chao Gao
2023-05-22  9:43   ` Liu, Jingqi
2023-04-14  6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/11] KVM: VMX: Advertise MITI_CTRL_BHB_CLEAR_SEQ_S_SUPPORT Chao Gao
2023-05-22  9:41   ` Liu, Jingqi
2023-04-14  6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/11] KVM: selftests: Add tests for virtual enumeration/mitigation MSRs Chao Gao
2023-05-22  9:39   ` Liu, Jingqi
2023-04-14  6:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/11] KVM: selftests: Add tests for IA32_SPEC_CTRL MSR Chao Gao
2023-04-14  9:51 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/11] Intel IA32_SPEC_CTRL Virtualization Binbin Wu
2023-04-14 22:10   ` Pawan Gupta [this message]

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