From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
To: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
Amit Shah <amit@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
x86@kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, amit.shah@amd.com,
thomas.lendacky@amd.com, bp@alien8.de, tglx@linutronix.de,
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boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, Babu.Moger@amd.com,
david.kaplan@amd.com, dwmw@amazon.co.uk
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] x86: cpu/bugs: update SpectreRSB comments for AMD
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:48:36 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241115054836.oubgh4jbyvjum4tk@jpoimboe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241114075403.7wxou7g5udaljprv@desk>
On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 12:01:16AM -0800, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> > For PBRSB, I guess we don't need to worry about that since there would
> > be at least one kernel CALL before context switch.
>
> Right. So the case where we need RSB filling at context switch is
> retpoline+CDT mitigation.
According to the docs, classic IBRS also needs RSB filling at context
switch to protect against corrupt RSB entries (as opposed to RSB
underflow).
Something like so...
diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
index 47a01d4028f6..7b9c0a21e478 100644
--- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
+++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
@@ -1579,27 +1579,44 @@ static void __init spec_ctrl_disable_kernel_rrsba(void)
rrsba_disabled = true;
}
-static void __init spectre_v2_determine_rsb_fill_type_at_vmexit(enum spectre_v2_mitigation mode)
+static void __init spectre_v2_mitigate_rsb(enum spectre_v2_mitigation mode)
{
/*
- * Similar to context switches, there are two types of RSB attacks
- * after VM exit:
+ * In general there are two types of RSB attacks:
*
- * 1) RSB underflow
+ * 1) RSB underflow ("Intel Retbleed")
+ *
+ * Some Intel parts have "bottomless RSB". When the RSB is empty,
+ * speculated return targets may come from the branch predictor,
+ * which could have a user-poisoned BTB or BHB entry.
+ *
+ * user->user attacks are mitigated by IBPB on context switch.
+ *
+ * user->kernel attacks via context switch are mitigated by IBRS,
+ * eIBRS, or RSB filling.
+ *
+ * user->kernel attacks via kernel entry are mitigated by IBRS,
+ * eIBRS, or call depth tracking.
+ *
+ * On VMEXIT, guest->host attacks are mitigated by IBRS, eIBRS, or
+ * RSB filling.
*
* 2) Poisoned RSB entry
*
- * When retpoline is enabled, both are mitigated by filling/clearing
- * the RSB.
+ * On a context switch, the previous task can poison RSB entries
+ * used by the next task, controlling its speculative return
+ * targets. Poisoned RSB entries can also be created by "AMD
+ * Retbleed" or SRSO.
*
- * When IBRS is enabled, while #1 would be mitigated by the IBRS branch
- * prediction isolation protections, RSB still needs to be cleared
- * because of #2. Note that SMEP provides no protection here, unlike
- * user-space-poisoned RSB entries.
+ * user->user attacks are mitigated by IBPB on context switch.
*
- * eIBRS should protect against RSB poisoning, but if the EIBRS_PBRSB
- * bug is present then a LITE version of RSB protection is required,
- * just a single call needs to retire before a RET is executed.
+ * user->kernel attacks via context switch are prevented by
+ * SMEP+eIBRS+SRSO mitigations, or RSB clearing.
+ *
+ * guest->host attacks are mitigated by eIBRS or RSB clearing on
+ * VMEXIT. eIBRS implementations with X86_BUG_EIBRS_PBRSB still
+ * need "lite" RSB filling which retires a CALL before the first
+ * RET.
*/
switch (mode) {
case SPECTRE_V2_NONE:
@@ -1608,8 +1625,8 @@ static void __init spectre_v2_determine_rsb_fill_type_at_vmexit(enum spectre_v2_
case SPECTRE_V2_EIBRS_LFENCE:
case SPECTRE_V2_EIBRS:
if (boot_cpu_has_bug(X86_BUG_EIBRS_PBRSB)) {
- setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_RSB_VMEXIT_LITE);
pr_info("Spectre v2 / PBRSB-eIBRS: Retire a single CALL on VMEXIT\n");
+ setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_RSB_VMEXIT_LITE);
}
return;
@@ -1617,12 +1634,13 @@ static void __init spectre_v2_determine_rsb_fill_type_at_vmexit(enum spectre_v2_
case SPECTRE_V2_RETPOLINE:
case SPECTRE_V2_LFENCE:
case SPECTRE_V2_IBRS:
+ pr_info("Spectre v2 / SpectreRSB : Filling RSB on context switch and VMEXIT\n");
+ setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_RSB_CTXSW);
setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_RSB_VMEXIT);
- pr_info("Spectre v2 / SpectreRSB : Filling RSB on VMEXIT\n");
return;
}
- pr_warn_once("Unknown Spectre v2 mode, disabling RSB mitigation at VM exit");
+ pr_warn_once("Unknown Spectre v2 mode, disabling RSB mitigation\n");
dump_stack();
}
@@ -1817,48 +1835,7 @@ static void __init spectre_v2_select_mitigation(void)
spectre_v2_enabled = mode;
pr_info("%s\n", spectre_v2_strings[mode]);
- /*
- * If Spectre v2 protection has been enabled, fill the RSB during a
- * context switch. In general there are two types of RSB attacks
- * across context switches, for which the CALLs/RETs may be unbalanced.
- *
- * 1) RSB underflow
- *
- * Some Intel parts have "bottomless RSB". When the RSB is empty,
- * speculated return targets may come from the branch predictor,
- * which could have a user-poisoned BTB or BHB entry.
- *
- * AMD has it even worse: *all* returns are speculated from the BTB,
- * regardless of the state of the RSB.
- *
- * When IBRS or eIBRS is enabled, the "user -> kernel" attack
- * scenario is mitigated by the IBRS branch prediction isolation
- * properties, so the RSB buffer filling wouldn't be necessary to
- * protect against this type of attack.
- *
- * The "user -> user" attack scenario is mitigated by RSB filling.
- *
- * 2) Poisoned RSB entry
- *
- * If the 'next' in-kernel return stack is shorter than 'prev',
- * 'next' could be tricked into speculating with a user-poisoned RSB
- * entry.
- *
- * The "user -> kernel" attack scenario is mitigated by SMEP and
- * eIBRS.
- *
- * The "user -> user" scenario, also known as SpectreBHB, requires
- * RSB clearing.
- *
- * So to mitigate all cases, unconditionally fill RSB on context
- * switches.
- *
- * FIXME: Is this pointless for retbleed-affected AMD?
- */
- setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_RSB_CTXSW);
- pr_info("Spectre v2 / SpectreRSB mitigation: Filling RSB on context switch\n");
-
- spectre_v2_determine_rsb_fill_type_at_vmexit(mode);
+ spectre_v2_mitigate_rsb(mode);
/*
* Retpoline protects the kernel, but doesn't protect firmware. IBRS
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-15 5:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-11 16:39 [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] Add support for the ERAPS feature Amit Shah
2024-11-11 16:39 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] x86: cpu/bugs: update SpectreRSB comments for AMD Amit Shah
2024-11-11 17:01 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-11 19:33 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-11 19:58 ` Kaplan, David
2024-11-11 20:39 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-11 20:40 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-12 0:30 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-12 0:29 ` Andrew Cooper
2024-11-12 1:46 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-12 11:58 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-11-13 21:24 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-13 21:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-11-14 0:43 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-14 7:47 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-11-14 9:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2024-11-14 9:54 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-11-12 15:16 ` Shah, Amit
2024-11-12 21:43 ` Pawan Gupta
2024-11-13 20:21 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-14 1:55 ` Pawan Gupta
2024-11-14 2:31 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-14 8:01 ` Pawan Gupta
2024-11-15 5:48 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2024-11-15 14:44 ` Kaplan, David
2024-11-15 17:05 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-15 17:50 ` Pawan Gupta
2024-11-15 18:10 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-18 10:15 ` Shah, Amit
2024-11-11 16:39 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] x86: cpu/bugs: add support for AMD ERAPS feature Amit Shah
2024-11-11 18:57 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-13 10:33 ` Shah, Amit
2024-11-11 16:39 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] x86: kvm: svm: add support for ERAPS and FLUSH_RAP_ON_VMRUN Amit Shah
2024-11-11 19:02 ` Dave Hansen
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