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From: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Amit Shah <amit@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, amit.shah@amd.com,
	thomas.lendacky@amd.com, bp@alien8.de, tglx@linutronix.de,
	peterz@infradead.org, corbet@lwn.net, mingo@redhat.com,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com, seanjc@google.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, daniel.sneddon@linux.intel.com,
	kai.huang@intel.com, sandipan.das@amd.com,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, Babu.Moger@amd.com,
	david.kaplan@amd.com, dwmw@amazon.co.uk
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] x86: cpu/bugs: update SpectreRSB comments for AMD
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:50:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241115175047.bszpeakeodajczav@desk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241115054836.oubgh4jbyvjum4tk@jpoimboe>

On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 09:48:36PM -0800, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> According to the docs, classic IBRS also needs RSB filling at context
> switch to protect against corrupt RSB entries (as opposed to RSB
> underflow).

Correct.

> Something like so...
> 
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
> index 47a01d4028f6..7b9c0a21e478 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
> @@ -1579,27 +1579,44 @@ static void __init spec_ctrl_disable_kernel_rrsba(void)
>  	rrsba_disabled = true;
>  }
>  
> -static void __init spectre_v2_determine_rsb_fill_type_at_vmexit(enum spectre_v2_mitigation mode)
> +static void __init spectre_v2_mitigate_rsb(enum spectre_v2_mitigation mode)
>  {
>  	/*
> -	 * Similar to context switches, there are two types of RSB attacks
> -	 * after VM exit:
> +	 * In general there are two types of RSB attacks:
>  	 *
> -	 * 1) RSB underflow
> +	 * 1) RSB underflow ("Intel Retbleed")
> +	 *
> +	 *    Some Intel parts have "bottomless RSB".  When the RSB is empty,
> +	 *    speculated return targets may come from the branch predictor,
> +	 *    which could have a user-poisoned BTB or BHB entry.
> +	 *
> +	 *    user->user attacks are mitigated by IBPB on context switch.
> +	 *
> +	 *    user->kernel attacks via context switch are mitigated by IBRS,
> +	 *    eIBRS, or RSB filling.
> +	 *
> +	 *    user->kernel attacks via kernel entry are mitigated by IBRS,
> +	 *    eIBRS, or call depth tracking.
> +	 *
> +	 *    On VMEXIT, guest->host attacks are mitigated by IBRS, eIBRS, or
> +	 *    RSB filling.
>  	 *
>  	 * 2) Poisoned RSB entry
>  	 *
> -	 * When retpoline is enabled, both are mitigated by filling/clearing
> -	 * the RSB.
> +	 *    On a context switch, the previous task can poison RSB entries
> +	 *    used by the next task, controlling its speculative return
> +	 *    targets.  Poisoned RSB entries can also be created by "AMD
> +	 *    Retbleed" or SRSO.
>  	 *
> -	 * When IBRS is enabled, while #1 would be mitigated by the IBRS branch
> -	 * prediction isolation protections, RSB still needs to be cleared
> -	 * because of #2.  Note that SMEP provides no protection here, unlike
> -	 * user-space-poisoned RSB entries.
> +	 *    user->user attacks are mitigated by IBPB on context switch.
>  	 *
> -	 * eIBRS should protect against RSB poisoning, but if the EIBRS_PBRSB
> -	 * bug is present then a LITE version of RSB protection is required,
> -	 * just a single call needs to retire before a RET is executed.
> +	 *    user->kernel attacks via context switch are prevented by
> +	 *    SMEP+eIBRS+SRSO mitigations, or RSB clearing.
> +	 *
> +	 *    guest->host attacks are mitigated by eIBRS or RSB clearing on
> +	 *    VMEXIT.  eIBRS implementations with X86_BUG_EIBRS_PBRSB still
> +	 *    need "lite" RSB filling which retires a CALL before the first
> +	 *    RET.
>  	 */
>  	switch (mode) {
>  	case SPECTRE_V2_NONE:
> @@ -1608,8 +1625,8 @@ static void __init spectre_v2_determine_rsb_fill_type_at_vmexit(enum spectre_v2_
>  	case SPECTRE_V2_EIBRS_LFENCE:
>  	case SPECTRE_V2_EIBRS:
>  		if (boot_cpu_has_bug(X86_BUG_EIBRS_PBRSB)) {
> -			setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_RSB_VMEXIT_LITE);
>  			pr_info("Spectre v2 / PBRSB-eIBRS: Retire a single CALL on VMEXIT\n");
> +			setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_RSB_VMEXIT_LITE);
>  		}
>  		return;
>  
> @@ -1617,12 +1634,13 @@ static void __init spectre_v2_determine_rsb_fill_type_at_vmexit(enum spectre_v2_
>  	case SPECTRE_V2_RETPOLINE:
>  	case SPECTRE_V2_LFENCE:
>  	case SPECTRE_V2_IBRS:
> +		pr_info("Spectre v2 / SpectreRSB : Filling RSB on context switch and VMEXIT\n");
> +		setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_RSB_CTXSW);
>  		setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_RSB_VMEXIT);
> -		pr_info("Spectre v2 / SpectreRSB : Filling RSB on VMEXIT\n");
>  		return;
>  	}
>  
> -	pr_warn_once("Unknown Spectre v2 mode, disabling RSB mitigation at VM exit");
> +	pr_warn_once("Unknown Spectre v2 mode, disabling RSB mitigation\n");
>  	dump_stack();
>  }
>  
> @@ -1817,48 +1835,7 @@ static void __init spectre_v2_select_mitigation(void)
>  	spectre_v2_enabled = mode;
>  	pr_info("%s\n", spectre_v2_strings[mode]);
>  
> -	/*
> -	 * If Spectre v2 protection has been enabled, fill the RSB during a
> -	 * context switch.  In general there are two types of RSB attacks
> -	 * across context switches, for which the CALLs/RETs may be unbalanced.
> -	 *
> -	 * 1) RSB underflow
> -	 *
> -	 *    Some Intel parts have "bottomless RSB".  When the RSB is empty,
> -	 *    speculated return targets may come from the branch predictor,
> -	 *    which could have a user-poisoned BTB or BHB entry.
> -	 *
> -	 *    AMD has it even worse: *all* returns are speculated from the BTB,
> -	 *    regardless of the state of the RSB.
> -	 *
> -	 *    When IBRS or eIBRS is enabled, the "user -> kernel" attack
> -	 *    scenario is mitigated by the IBRS branch prediction isolation
> -	 *    properties, so the RSB buffer filling wouldn't be necessary to
> -	 *    protect against this type of attack.
> -	 *
> -	 *    The "user -> user" attack scenario is mitigated by RSB filling.
> -	 *
> -	 * 2) Poisoned RSB entry
> -	 *
> -	 *    If the 'next' in-kernel return stack is shorter than 'prev',
> -	 *    'next' could be tricked into speculating with a user-poisoned RSB
> -	 *    entry.
> -	 *
> -	 *    The "user -> kernel" attack scenario is mitigated by SMEP and
> -	 *    eIBRS.
> -	 *
> -	 *    The "user -> user" scenario, also known as SpectreBHB, requires
> -	 *    RSB clearing.
> -	 *
> -	 * So to mitigate all cases, unconditionally fill RSB on context
> -	 * switches.
> -	 *
> -	 * FIXME: Is this pointless for retbleed-affected AMD?
> -	 */
> -	setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_RSB_CTXSW);
> -	pr_info("Spectre v2 / SpectreRSB mitigation: Filling RSB on context switch\n");
> -
> -	spectre_v2_determine_rsb_fill_type_at_vmexit(mode);
> +	spectre_v2_mitigate_rsb(mode);
>  
>  	/*
>  	 * Retpoline protects the kernel, but doesn't protect firmware.  IBRS

This LGTM.

I think SPECTRE_V2_EIBRS_RETPOLINE is placed in the wrong leg, it
doesn't need RSB filling on context switch, and only needs VMEXIT_LITE.
Does below change on top of your patch look okay?

---
diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
index 7b9c0a21e478..d3b9a0d7a2b5 100644
--- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
+++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
@@ -1622,6 +1622,7 @@ static void __init spectre_v2_mitigate_rsb(enum spectre_v2_mitigation mode)
 	case SPECTRE_V2_NONE:
 		return;
 
+	case SPECTRE_V2_EIBRS_RETPOLINE:
 	case SPECTRE_V2_EIBRS_LFENCE:
 	case SPECTRE_V2_EIBRS:
 		if (boot_cpu_has_bug(X86_BUG_EIBRS_PBRSB)) {
@@ -1630,7 +1631,6 @@ static void __init spectre_v2_mitigate_rsb(enum spectre_v2_mitigation mode)
 		}
 		return;
 
-	case SPECTRE_V2_EIBRS_RETPOLINE:
 	case SPECTRE_V2_RETPOLINE:
 	case SPECTRE_V2_LFENCE:
 	case SPECTRE_V2_IBRS:

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-15 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-11 16:39 [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] Add support for the ERAPS feature Amit Shah
2024-11-11 16:39 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] x86: cpu/bugs: update SpectreRSB comments for AMD Amit Shah
2024-11-11 17:01   ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-11 19:33   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-11 19:58     ` Kaplan, David
2024-11-11 20:39       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-11 20:40         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-12  0:30           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-12  0:29     ` Andrew Cooper
2024-11-12  1:46       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-12 11:58         ` Borislav Petkov
2024-11-13 21:24           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-13 21:37             ` Borislav Petkov
2024-11-14  0:43               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-14  7:47                 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-11-14  9:47                   ` Ingo Molnar
2024-11-14  9:54                     ` Borislav Petkov
2024-11-12 15:16         ` Shah, Amit
2024-11-12 21:43         ` Pawan Gupta
2024-11-13 20:21           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-14  1:55             ` Pawan Gupta
2024-11-14  2:31               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-14  8:01                 ` Pawan Gupta
2024-11-15  5:48                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-15 14:44                     ` Kaplan, David
2024-11-15 17:05                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-15 17:50                     ` Pawan Gupta [this message]
2024-11-15 18:10                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-18 10:15                         ` Shah, Amit
2024-11-11 16:39 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] x86: cpu/bugs: add support for AMD ERAPS feature Amit Shah
2024-11-11 18:57   ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-13 10:33     ` Shah, Amit
2024-11-11 16:39 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] x86: kvm: svm: add support for ERAPS and FLUSH_RAP_ON_VMRUN Amit Shah
2024-11-11 19:02   ` Dave Hansen

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