From: Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Tim C Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
ricardo.neri@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 5/6] sched/fair: Allow load balancing between CPUs of identical capacity
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2026 20:34:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260806033407.GA5786@ranerica-svr.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtCpygCO68k3+8gPDM8k=L8FpQBTE+W2bbtdA-kR64PdnQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Aug 04, 2026 at 11:55:52AM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 at 09:11, Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 7/21/26 03:43, Ricardo Neri wrote:
> > > sched_balance_find_src_rq() avoids selecting a runqueue with a single
> > > running task as busiest if doing so results in migrating the task to a
> > > CPU with less than ~5% of extra capacity. It also unintentionally
> > > prevents migrations between CPUs of identical capacity.
> > >
> > > When CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER is enabled, load should be balanced across
> > > clusters of CPUs with the same capacity. Allowing migration between CPUs
> > > of identical capacity is necessary to meet this goal.
> > >
> > > Use get_actual_cpu_capacity() to reflect architectural capacity as well
> > > as diminished capacity due to hardware or cpufreq pressure. Guard this
> > > check with the sched_cluster_active static key so that systems without
> > > cluster topology are unaffected.
> > >
> > > Tested-by: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
> > > Tested-by: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>
> > > ---
> > > Changes in v6:
> > > * Switched to use get_actual_cpu_capacity() instead of
> > > arch_scale_cpu_capacity(). The former considers rq->avg_hw.load_avg and
> > > cpufreq_pressure and their impact on CPU capacity. (Vincent)
> > > * Renamed the variable same_arch_cluster as cluster_equal_cap for
> > > clarity. (Andrea)
> > > * Added Tested-by tag from Andrea. Thanks!
> > >
> > > Changes in v5:
> > > * Optimized logic to identify same-arch clusters only when needed.
> > > * Added Tested-by tag from Christian. Thanks!
> > >
> > > Changes in v4:
> > > * Implemented the check for cluster with a local variable for improved
> > > readability.
> > >
> > > Changes in v3:
> > > * Reverted the inverted capacity check; the inverted form incorrectly
> > > allows migrations to CPUs of slightly less capacity.
> > > * Guarded the check for architectural capacity with the
> > > sched_cluster_active static key.
> > >
> > > Changes in v2:
> > > * Used arch_scale_cpu_capacity() instead of capacity_of() to ignore
> > > runtime variability.
> > > * Inverted the check for runtime capacity. (Christian)
> > > * Reworded patch description for clarity.
> > > ---
> > > kernel/sched/fair.c | 9 ++++++++-
> > > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > index feea47e6abea..de4189b562ac 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > @@ -13104,13 +13104,20 @@ static struct rq *sched_balance_find_src_rq(struct lb_env *env,
> > > */
> > > if (env->sd->flags & SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY &&
> > > nr_running == 1) {
> > > + bool cluster_equal_cap = static_branch_unlikely(&sched_cluster_active) &&
> > > + (get_actual_cpu_capacity(env->dst_cpu) ==
> > > + get_actual_cpu_capacity(i));
> >
> >
> > I guess it's extremely unlikely, but it _feels_ wrong to have to clusters of different
> > arch_scale_cpu_capacity() equal to true here because of system/thermal pressure (which is
> > obviously considered more transient).
> > Adding && arch_scale_cpu_capacity(env->dst_cpu) == arch_scale_cpu_capacity(i) might even
> > make the check cheaper because it's better for the branch predictor than get_actual_cpu_capacity().
> > Vincent, would you be fine with requiring both: equal get_actual_cpu_capacity() and
> > arch_scale_cpu_capacity()?
>
> TBH, I don't have a strong opinion on this. I have in mind that the
> cpufreq pressure can last a long time (i.e., several hundreds of ms)
> so it could make sense to spread tasks between clusters even if one
> has lower max capacity. The task will migrate back to the cpu with
> higher capacity once the cpufreq pressure is removed but this would
> need some test results
I am with Vincent in this: it would be better to spread tasks among
clusters of equal _actual_ capacity even if they arch capacity is
different. Besides diminished compute capacity, packing tasks in one
cluser would cause L2 cache contention, which is what cluster
scheduling wants to avoid.
I am running some workloads and will report results.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-06 3:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-21 2:43 [PATCH v6 0/6] sched: Fix cluster scheduling in the presence of asymmetric capacity Ricardo Neri
2026-07-21 2:43 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] sched/fair: Do not skip CPUs of similar capacity with busy SMT siblings Ricardo Neri
2026-08-08 9:44 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Ricardo Neri
2026-07-21 2:43 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] sched/fair: Also gate overloaded status update for SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY Ricardo Neri
2026-08-08 9:44 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Ricardo Neri
2026-07-21 2:43 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] sched/fair: Check CPU capacity before comparing group types during load balance Ricardo Neri
2026-08-08 9:44 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Ricardo Neri
2026-07-21 2:43 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] sched/fair: Skip misfit load accounting when the destination CPU cannot help Ricardo Neri
2026-08-08 9:44 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Ricardo Neri
2026-07-21 2:43 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] sched/fair: Allow load balancing between CPUs of identical capacity Ricardo Neri
2026-07-23 7:10 ` Christian Loehle
2026-08-04 9:55 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-08-06 3:34 ` Ricardo Neri [this message]
2026-08-04 9:50 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-08-08 9:44 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Ricardo Neri
2026-07-21 2:43 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] sched/topology: Restore SD_PREFER_SIBLING in domains with asymmetric capacity Ricardo Neri
2026-08-04 9:56 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-08-08 9:44 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Ricardo Neri
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