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From: "Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	llvm@lists.linux.dev, xin@zytor.com,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <nick.desaulniers+lkml@gmail.com>,
	Bill Wendling <morbo@google.com>,
	Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 09/12] x86/msr: Use the alternatives mechanism for WRMSR
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2025 13:16:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <293e8808-e239-412e-90bc-d13f671c6061@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251001105058.GP3419281@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>


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On 01.10.25 12:50, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 01, 2025 at 10:49:31AM +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
> 
>> Thinking more about that I believe there are additional problems:
>>
>> Having overlapping alternatives not starting at the same address will result
>> in problems with length padding of the outer alternative in case the inner
>> one starting later is extending past the end of the outer one. This might be
>> possible to handle, but it will be tedious.
> 
> Yes, this must not happen.
> 
>> Using your idea with pv_ops could result in the inner alternative not being
>> at the start of the outer alternative AND being not the initial code. This
>> would result in patching in the .altinstructions area instead of the normal
>> .text site, resulting in possible loss of a patching action if the patched
>> area would have been used as a replacement before.
> 
> Not quite, the nested alternative was in the orig_insn part. So it would
> result in patching the orig text twice, once from the inner (which comes
> first in the patch list) and then once again from the outer (which comes
> later).

Yes, but that was the native case only.

With pv_ops this would mean the original instruction would be the
paravirt-call, resulting in your construct becoming an inner nesting level.

> 
>> So in my opinion allowing alternatives to nest without all inner levels
>> starting at the same location as the outermost level would be a receipt for
>> failure.
> 
> Certainly tricky, no argument there.
> 
>> I think I'll write another patch to BUG() in case such a situation is being
>> detected.
> 
> Fair enough; we should not currently have any such cases. And going by
> my attempt to make it work, its going to be really tricky in any case.
> 
> But please put on a comment on why, which explains the constraints.

Agreed.


Juergen

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-01 11:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-30  7:03 [PATCH v2 00/12] x86/msr: Inline rdmsr/wrmsr instructions Juergen Gross
2025-09-30  7:03 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] coco/tdx: Rename MSR access helpers Juergen Gross
2025-09-30  9:07   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-30  7:03 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] x86/sev: Replace call of native_wrmsr() with native_wrmsrq() Juergen Gross
2025-10-07  6:08   ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2025-09-30  7:03 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] x86/kvm: Remove the KVM private read_msr() function Juergen Gross
2025-09-30 16:04   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-01  9:14     ` Jürgen Groß
2025-09-30  7:03 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] x86/msr: Minimize usage of native_*() msr access functions Juergen Gross
2025-09-30  7:03 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] x86/msr: Move MSR trace calls one function level up Juergen Gross
2025-09-30  7:03 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] x86/cpufeatures: Add a CPU feature bit for MSR immediate form instructions Juergen Gross
2025-09-30  7:03 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] x86/opcode: Add immediate form MSR instructions Juergen Gross
2025-09-30  7:03 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] x86/extable: Add support for " Juergen Gross
2025-09-30  8:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-30  8:31     ` Jürgen Groß
2025-09-30  7:03 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] x86/msr: Use the alternatives mechanism for WRMSR Juergen Gross
2025-09-30  8:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-30  8:46     ` Jürgen Groß
2025-09-30  8:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-30 12:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-30 15:42           ` Jürgen Groß
2025-10-01  6:43             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-01  7:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-03 14:23                 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-03 16:53                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-01  8:49       ` Juergen Gross
2025-10-01 10:50         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-01 11:16           ` Jürgen Groß [this message]
2025-09-30 16:00   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-01  9:13     ` Jürgen Groß
2025-09-30  7:03 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] x86/msr: Use the alternatives mechanism for RDMSR Juergen Gross
2025-09-30  7:03 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] x86/paravirt: Don't use pv_ops vector for MSR access functions Juergen Gross
2025-09-30  8:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-30  9:02     ` Jürgen Groß
2025-09-30 10:04       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-30 10:43         ` Jürgen Groß
2025-09-30 19:49           ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-09-30 19:59             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-01  6:45             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-30 21:27   ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01  5:48     ` Jürgen Groß
2025-09-30  7:03 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] x86/msr: Reduce number of low level MSR access helpers Juergen Gross
2025-09-30 19:19 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] x86/msr: Inline rdmsr/wrmsr instructions H. Peter Anvin

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