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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Patch v4 1/2] freezer: check OOM kill while being frozen
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 23:53:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3827451.ToKxd7Xb2J@vostro.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM_iQpW8XT_ixUTG-9JPoeZ-kqMN1YpkpwvgQtQVDNLDJ5cn8A@mail.gmail.com>

On Monday, September 08, 2014 01:58:30 PM Cong Wang wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net> wrote:
> > On Monday, September 08, 2014 10:40:17 AM Cong Wang wrote:
> >>
> >> We asked you to comment on either if this patch is safe for PM freeze
> >> if we don't have the cgroup_freezing() check, or if it is not safe why (so that
> >> I can put it in the comment).
> >
> > OK, which version of it?  Anything that has been posted as a complete patch you
> > have a link to?  Or am I supposed to go through the whole thread and figure out
> > how the patch *might* have looked had it been posted and then comment?
> 
> Sorry, I meant this version, the one we are discussing about.
> In case you missed it too, let me show the related code for you:
> 
> +       /* It might not be safe to check TIF_MEMDIE for pm freeze. */
> +       if (cgroup_freezing(current) && test_thread_flag(TIF_MEMDIE))
> +               return true;
> +
> 
> (return true means it will break the loop of freezing, that is thaw itself.)
> 
> So our question is if we really need the cgroup_freezing() check here?

No, I don't think so.

> IOW, is it safe to check TIF_MEMDIE and then thaw itself even if the
> freeze request is from PM? Hope it is clear now.

Yes, it is clear, thanks.

Why would the cgroup_freezing() test matter here at all?

> >> OK, maybe just one or two sentences. Let me know if the following
> >> comment is okay for you:
> >>
> >> /* OOM killer might decide to kill this process after it is frozen,
> >>   in this case it should thaw and die. */
> >
> > I don't think it's sufficient.  In particular, what does "thaw and die" mean
> > exactly?  It should be thawed immediately and then die or it should die right
> > after it's thawed (at one point in the future)?
> >
> 
> OK, let me try again:
> 
> /* OOM killer may decide to kill this process after it is frozen,
>   in this case SIGKILL can never be handled, so we should check
>  TIF_MEMDIE and if it is set, thaw and let SIGKILL kill it. */
> 
> (Again, more detailed explanation is in the changelog, comment is just
> for a quick reference, this seems what we all agree on.)

OK

I think you can simply add the test_thread_flag(TIF_MEMDIE) check to
__refrigerator() and it should be OK without the comment.

But please tell me this: If TIF_MEMDIE is set and we thaw the process,
can it do *anything* before dying or will it die immediately?

Rafael


  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-08 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-04 22:30 Cong Wang
2014-09-04 22:30 ` [Patch v4 2/2] freezer: remove obsolete comments in __thaw_task() Cong Wang
2014-09-05  9:45   ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-05 14:09   ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-05 14:08 ` [Patch v4 1/2] freezer: check OOM kill while being frozen Tejun Heo
2014-09-05 16:31   ` Cong Wang
2014-09-05 18:00     ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-05 18:12       ` Cong Wang
2014-09-05 22:45         ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-05 23:32           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-08 17:40             ` Cong Wang
2014-09-08 20:54               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-08 20:58                 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-08 21:53                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2014-09-08 22:22                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-08 22:48                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-08 22:50                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-08 23:15                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-08 23:00                             ` Cong Wang
2014-09-08 23:23                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-08 23:16                                 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-08 23:42                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-08 23:29                                     ` Cong Wang
2014-09-08 23:59                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-10 20:30                                       ` Cong Wang
2014-09-10 23:38                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-10 23:20                                           ` Cong Wang
2014-09-11 16:30                                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-12 23:59                                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-14 16:43                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-15  0:56                                               ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-15  3:34                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-15  9:36                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-16 22:55                                                     ` Cong Wang
2014-09-22  8:21                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-09 15:16                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-09 15:23                             ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09 16:06                               ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-09 16:46                                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09 17:12                                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-09 20:53                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-10 13:24                                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-11 13:08                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-11 14:17                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-11 14:04                                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-11 14:26                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-11 14:10                                               ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-11 14:32                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-11 14:28                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-11 14:52                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-11 14:45                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-14 16:39                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-12 23:48                                       ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-15 14:28                                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-16  5:56                                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09 20:48                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-10  5:21                                 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-05 16:43   ` Cong Wang
2014-09-05 16:54     ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-15 11:22 ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-16 22:58   ` Cong Wang

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