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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Patch v4 1/2] freezer: check OOM kill while being frozen
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 01:59:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4394731.dfhKV5T3ox@vostro.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM_iQpXwEEoCTqksFEyJ7UigOJkf6g5UHnddEHcMDjwKz6K-DQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Monday, September 08, 2014 04:29:24 PM Cong Wang wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net> wrote:
> > On Monday, September 08, 2014 04:16:15 PM Cong Wang wrote:
> >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The reason why it matters for the suspend-time freezing is that we freeze tasks
> >> > to take them out of the picture entirely until they are thawed.  Therefore we
> >> > can't allow them to go back to the picture just for a while until they are
> >> > killed.  Frozen tasks are not supposed to get back to the picture at all.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Ok, then checking TIF_MEMDIE is unsafe for PM freeze, we should
> >> keep the cgroup_freezing() test to make sure freeze request is from
> >> cgroup not PM. Question got answered. :)
> >
> > Do I think correctly that cgroups freezing and system suspend are
> > mutually exclusive?  If not, then this still is problematic.
> 
> Good point! Although rare, but it is possible we freeze a process both from
> cgroup and PM. Hmm, this means we have to explicitly exclude PM rather
> just checking cgroup freeze?

There's no way to do that currently as PM freezing is all-inclusive.

> Interesting, but I am not familiar with PM.

I'm wondering if the OOM killer might avoid killing frozen tasks instead?

Or there might be a "suspend" operation for the OOM killer that would be
run from a PM notifier to guaratee that the OOM killer would not mess up
with things during the entire system suspend (which surely is not quite
useful anyway).

-- 
I speak only for myself.
Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-08 23:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-04 22:30 Cong Wang
2014-09-04 22:30 ` [Patch v4 2/2] freezer: remove obsolete comments in __thaw_task() Cong Wang
2014-09-05  9:45   ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-05 14:09   ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-05 14:08 ` [Patch v4 1/2] freezer: check OOM kill while being frozen Tejun Heo
2014-09-05 16:31   ` Cong Wang
2014-09-05 18:00     ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-05 18:12       ` Cong Wang
2014-09-05 22:45         ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-05 23:32           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-08 17:40             ` Cong Wang
2014-09-08 20:54               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-08 20:58                 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-08 21:53                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-08 22:22                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-08 22:48                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-08 22:50                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-08 23:15                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-08 23:00                             ` Cong Wang
2014-09-08 23:23                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-08 23:16                                 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-08 23:42                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-08 23:29                                     ` Cong Wang
2014-09-08 23:59                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2014-09-10 20:30                                       ` Cong Wang
2014-09-10 23:38                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-10 23:20                                           ` Cong Wang
2014-09-11 16:30                                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-12 23:59                                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-14 16:43                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-15  0:56                                               ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-15  3:34                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-15  9:36                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-16 22:55                                                     ` Cong Wang
2014-09-22  8:21                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-09 15:16                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-09 15:23                             ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09 16:06                               ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-09 16:46                                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09 17:12                                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-09 20:53                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-10 13:24                                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-11 13:08                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-11 14:17                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-11 14:04                                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-11 14:26                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-11 14:10                                               ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-11 14:32                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-11 14:28                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-11 14:52                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-11 14:45                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-14 16:39                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-12 23:48                                       ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-15 14:28                                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-16  5:56                                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09 20:48                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-10  5:21                                 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-05 16:43   ` Cong Wang
2014-09-05 16:54     ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-15 11:22 ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-16 22:58   ` Cong Wang

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