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From: "Luke Yang" <luke.adi@gmail.com>
To: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Aubrey <aubreylee@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Andrew Morton" <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] Blackfin: arch patch for 2.6.18
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:39:42 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <489ecd0c0609250239v1e23010fu15e707ef7d2162a8@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200609251126.17494.arnd@arndb.de>

On 9/25/06, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Monday 25 September 2006 09:49, Aubrey wrote:
> > Oh, sorry for my unclear description, any of the peripherals can be configured
> > to wake up the core from its idled state to process the interrupt on
> > Blackfin. I should say __if no other interrupts__ here is the timer
> > interrupt waking up the processor every one jiffy.
>
> And that works if interrupts are disabled as it should?
>
> > I don't understand if interrupt occurs between need_resched() and the
> > idle instruction, what will become the racy object? Can you comment it
> > detailed? thanks.
>
> It's the same problem as why sleep_on() is wrong and wait_event() is
> right, you can find lots of documentation about that.
>
> Think about a process calling nanosleep() to wait for a timeout.
> It eventually ends up going to sleep and the kernel schedules
> the idle task.
>
> The idle task checks need_resched(), which returns false, so it
> will call the idle instruction. Before it gets there, the timer
> tick happens, which calls the timer softirq. That softirq notices
> that the user process should continue running and calls wake_up(),
> which makes the condition for need_resched() true.
>
> Since we're handling that softirq that interrupted the idle task,
> that task continues what it was last doing and calls the idle instruction.
> This is the point where it goes wrong, because your user task should
> run, but the CPU is sleeping until the next interrupt happens.
 Got it. You are right. We'll check to see what we can do on Blackfin.
Thank you!

>
> Note that you should in the future disable timer ticks during the
> idle function (CONFIG_NO_IDLE_HZ or similar) to save more power, but
> in that case the CPU may be in idle indefinitely after missing the
> one interrupt that should have woken it up.
>
>         Arnd <><
>


-- 
Best regards,
Luke Yang
luke.adi@gmail.com

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-25  9:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-21  3:32 Luke Yang
2006-09-21  9:59 ` Luke Yang
2006-09-23  0:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-23  1:18   ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-09-23  1:24     ` Roland Dreier
2006-09-23  1:58       ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23  6:50   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23 11:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-23 11:15       ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23 11:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-23 13:07         ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-23 11:28     ` Matthieu CASTET
2006-09-23 11:35       ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23 19:43     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-24  3:49       ` Luke Yang
2006-09-24  3:35   ` Aubrey
2006-09-24  3:50     ` Randy Dunlap
2006-09-24  4:28       ` Aubrey
2006-09-25  6:54     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-25  7:49       ` Aubrey
2006-09-25  9:26         ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-25  9:39           ` Luke Yang [this message]
2006-09-25  9:45           ` Aubrey
2006-09-25 15:39           ` Aubrey
2006-09-25 17:05             ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-26  3:42               ` Aubrey
2006-09-26  9:43                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-27 10:04               ` Aubrey
2006-09-27 11:37                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-23 21:27 ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-25 16:52 ` Randy Dunlap
2006-09-25 18:05   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23 16:29 Robin Getz
2006-09-23 18:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-23 17:57 Robin Getz
2006-09-23 23:25 Robin Getz
2006-09-24  7:29 ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-25 23:21 Robin Getz
2006-09-27 16:25 Robin Getz
2006-09-27 16:36 ` Randy Dunlap
2006-09-27 16:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-27 17:19 ` Robin Getz
2006-09-27 20:57   ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-28  9:31     ` Bernd Schmidt
2006-09-28 11:04       ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-28 11:39         ` Bernd Schmidt
2006-09-28 12:35           ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-27 17:47 Robin Getz
2006-09-27 19:19 ` Jörn Engel
2006-09-27 21:22 Robin Getz
2006-09-27 21:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-27 22:56 Robin Getz
2006-09-27 23:01 Robin Getz

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