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From: Aubrey <aubreylee@gmail.com>
To: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: "Luke Yang" <luke.adi@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Andrew Morton" <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] Blackfin: arch patch for 2.6.18
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:49:57 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6d6a94c50609250049l75b2f070q81583b90d8fcfaec@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200609250854.04470.arnd@arndb.de>

On 9/25/06, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Sunday 24 September 2006 05:35, Aubrey wrote:
> > > This looks racy. What if you get an interrupt after testing need_resched()
> > > but before the idle instruction?
> > >
> > > Normally, this should look like
> > >
> > > while(!need_resched()) {
> > > local_irq_disable();
> > > if (!need_resched())
> > > asm volatile("idle");
> > > local_irq_enable();
> > > }
> > >
> > > Of course that only works if your idle instruction wakes up on pending
> > > interrupts.
> >
> >
> > No, that doesn't work on blackfin. Blackfin need interrupt(here is
> > timer interrupt) to wake up the core from IDLE mode. Once you disable
> > the interrupt, the core will sleep forever.
>
> Ok, then this is something you should take back as feedback to your
> CPU designers. With the behavior you describe, the interrupt latency
> (until the point where an application runs) can be up to one jiffy
> longer than it should be, which is unacceptable for many real-time
> users.
>
> Worse, it means that you can not use the CONFIG_NO_IDLE_HZ option in the
> future, because you have no way to guarantee that you ever wake up from
> idle if you hit the race.
>

Oh, sorry for my unclear description, any of the peripherals can be configured
to wake up the core from its idled state to process the interrupt on
Blackfin. I should say __if no other interrupts__ here is the timer
interrupt waking up the processor every one jiffy.

I don't understand if interrupt occurs between need_resched() and the
idle instruction, what will become the racy object? Can you comment it
detailed? thanks.

-Aubrey

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-25  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-21  3:32 Luke Yang
2006-09-21  9:59 ` Luke Yang
2006-09-23  0:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-23  1:18   ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-09-23  1:24     ` Roland Dreier
2006-09-23  1:58       ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23  6:50   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23 11:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-23 11:15       ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23 11:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-23 13:07         ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-23 11:28     ` Matthieu CASTET
2006-09-23 11:35       ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23 19:43     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-24  3:49       ` Luke Yang
2006-09-24  3:35   ` Aubrey
2006-09-24  3:50     ` Randy Dunlap
2006-09-24  4:28       ` Aubrey
2006-09-25  6:54     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-25  7:49       ` Aubrey [this message]
2006-09-25  9:26         ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-25  9:39           ` Luke Yang
2006-09-25  9:45           ` Aubrey
2006-09-25 15:39           ` Aubrey
2006-09-25 17:05             ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-26  3:42               ` Aubrey
2006-09-26  9:43                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-27 10:04               ` Aubrey
2006-09-27 11:37                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-23 21:27 ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-25 16:52 ` Randy Dunlap
2006-09-25 18:05   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23 16:29 Robin Getz
2006-09-23 18:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-23 17:57 Robin Getz
2006-09-23 23:25 Robin Getz
2006-09-24  7:29 ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-25 23:21 Robin Getz
2006-09-27 16:25 Robin Getz
2006-09-27 16:36 ` Randy Dunlap
2006-09-27 16:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-27 17:19 ` Robin Getz
2006-09-27 20:57   ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-28  9:31     ` Bernd Schmidt
2006-09-28 11:04       ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-28 11:39         ` Bernd Schmidt
2006-09-28 12:35           ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-27 17:47 Robin Getz
2006-09-27 19:19 ` Jörn Engel
2006-09-27 21:22 Robin Getz
2006-09-27 21:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-09-27 22:56 Robin Getz
2006-09-27 23:01 Robin Getz

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