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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: HATAYAMA Daisuke <d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Dave Anderson <anderson@redhat.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Aaron Durbin <adurbin@google.com>,
	Eric Northup <digitaleric@google.com>,
	Julien Tinnes <jln@google.com>, Will Drewry <wad@google.com>,
	Mathias Krause <minipli@googlemail.com>,
	Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"Discussion list for crash utility usage,
	maintenance and development"  <crash-utility@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/7] x86, kaslr: report kernel offset on panic
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 07:13:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52556486.9080109@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52552A2A.8030505@jp.fujitsu.com>

On 10/09/2013 03:04 AM, HATAYAMA Daisuke wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry, I don't understand why relocation size cannot be calculated when
>>> CONFIG_PHYSICALSTART > CONFIG_PHYSICAL_ALIGN. Could you explain that?
>>
>> I just meant that when CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START > CONFIG_PHYSICAL_ALIGN,
>> the 32-bit x86 kernel
>> gets relocated (like the secondary kdump kernel), but that information
>> is not readily available
>> from the vmlinux/vmcore pair.
>>
> 
> My understanding on CONFIG_PHYSICAL_ALIGN was that starting address of
> kernel text area
> is always rounded up to CONFIG_PHYSICAL_ALIGN, only. Your explanation
> would be part I don't
> understand well. I'll reconsider it locally...
> 

If CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START == CONFIG_PHYSICAL_ALIGN, then it is very
likely that the kernel (in the absence of kASLR) will be run at the
CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START address, as the initial loading address, usually 1
MB, will be rounded up to CONFIG_PHYSICAL_ALIGN.

Since CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START is the unrelocated linking address, they end
up matching.

	-hpa



  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-09 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-01 19:37 [PATCH v6 0/7] Kernel base address randomization Kees Cook
2013-10-01 19:37 ` [PATCH 1/7] x86, kaslr: move CPU flags out of cpucheck Kees Cook
2013-10-01 20:48   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-01 21:09     ` Kees Cook
2013-10-01 19:37 ` [PATCH 2/7] x86, kaslr: return location from decompress_kernel Kees Cook
2013-10-01 19:37 ` [PATCH 3/7] x86, kaslr: find minimum safe relocation position Kees Cook
2013-10-01 19:37 ` [PATCH 4/7] x86, kaslr: select random base offset Kees Cook
2013-10-01 20:46   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-01 21:18     ` Kees Cook
2013-10-01 19:37 ` [PATCH 5/7] x86, kaslr: select memory region from e820 maps Kees Cook
2013-10-01 19:37 ` [PATCH 6/7] x86, kaslr: report kernel offset on panic Kees Cook
2013-10-02  0:38   ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-10-02  1:06     ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-10-02  7:51       ` Kees Cook
2013-10-02  7:48     ` Kees Cook
2013-10-02  9:13       ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-10-03  0:33         ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-10-03 13:47           ` Dave Anderson
2013-10-07  1:59             ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-10-07 13:21               ` Dave Anderson
2013-10-08  9:52                 ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-10-08 13:38                   ` Dave Anderson
2013-10-09 10:04                     ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-10-09 14:13                       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-10-09 18:06                       ` Kees Cook
2013-10-01 19:37 ` [PATCH 7/7] x86, kaslr: raise max positions to 1GiB on x86_64 Kees Cook
2013-10-02  5:07 ` [PATCH v6 0/7] Kernel base address randomization Ingo Molnar
2013-10-02  5:11   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-02  5:25     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-10-02  5:30       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-02  5:36         ` Kees Cook
2013-10-03 20:53 [PATCH v7 0/7] Kernel base address randomization on x86 Kees Cook
2013-10-03 20:53 ` [PATCH 6/7] x86, kaslr: report kernel offset on panic Kees Cook

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