mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
To: Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Babu Moger <Babu.Moger@amd.com>,
	shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com,
	D Scott Phillips OS <scott@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	carl@os.amperecomputing.com, lcherian@marvell.com,
	bobo.shaobowang@huawei.com, tan.shaopeng@fujitsu.com,
	Jamie Iles <quic_jiles@quicinc.com>,
	Xin Hao <xhao@linux.alibaba.com>,
	xingxin.hx@openanolis.org, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 18/18] x86/resctrl: Separate arch and fs resctrl locks
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2022 17:18:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54bbb5b1-6d04-6d45-d6c9-45e714928cf4@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALPaoCjTzzdqtEoqSWv-w=Fvq-dLLjvt8VJrP_RzmijLTD5=2w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Peter,

On 31/10/2022 14:21, Peter Newman wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 3:13 PM James Morse <james.morse@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> MPAM's monitors have an overflow interrupt, so it needs to be possible
>> to walk the domains list in irq context. RCU is ideal for this,
>> but some paths need to be able to sleep to allocate memory.

> I'm curious about this requirement. There are already counters which can
> overflow on Intel, but we've been able to detect overflows soon enough
> by checking at a reasonable interval. Are we expecting MSCs to have
> counters that overflow so quickly that the overflows need to be handled
> directly in IRQ context vs being able to run a threaded handler before
> the second overflow?

Ultimately, I don't know. MPAM has three sizes of counter, 31, 44 and 63.
I think its entirely possible someone builds a system with an inconvenient size for the
way they use it - but this wasn't how I anticipated this getting used...


> It seems like MBM would be really intrusive if it could cause the system
> to process overflow IRQs at a high rate.

... I agree ..


> Also is the overflow interrupt handler in one of your MPAM preview
> branches? I was only able to find an error IRQ handler in
> mpam/snapshot/v6.0:
> 
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/morse/linux.git/tree/drivers/platform/mpam/mpam_devices.c?h=mpam/snapshot/v6.0#n1813

Because there probably won't be enough monitors to expose the free-running resctrl files,
I anticipate that most use of the memory bandwidth counters will be via perf, which gives
MPAM the start/stop calls it needs to allocate and free a monitor.

The PMU driver gets asked to read the counters in IRQ context, see __perf_event_read()
called via smp_call_function_single(). (I'm sure there are others).

This is the first reason why the domain list needs to be protected by something like RCU.

Perf also has a sampling mode, where it sets the value to overflow after a specific number
of events, and times how long that takes to occur. (I haven't completely got my head round
it yet) In this mode, the MPAM driver would need to invoke the PMU driver to read the
counters in IRQ context.

I haven't written the overflow  interrupt code yet because I've got no access to a
platform (virtual or otherwise) with working counters, so couldn't possibly test it. (See
also, the 44 and 63 bit counter support!)

I was being lazy with the commit message and only describing the last case. Is the
future-plot-arc important? It would result in a bit of a brain-dump/essay in the commit
message.


Thanks,

James

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-09 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-21 13:11 [PATCH 00/18] x86/resctrl: monitored closid+rmid together, separate arch/fs locking James Morse
2022-10-21 13:11 ` [PATCH 01/18] x86/resctrl: Track the closid with the rmid James Morse
2022-10-31 14:42   ` Peter Newman
2022-11-25  4:07   ` haoxin
2023-01-06  2:57   ` Yu, Fenghua
2023-01-10 17:57     ` James Morse
2023-01-10 18:01       ` Yu, Fenghua
2022-10-21 13:11 ` [PATCH 02/18] x86/resctrl: Access per-rmid structures by index James Morse
2023-01-06  3:12   ` Yu, Fenghua
2023-01-10 17:57     ` James Morse
2022-10-21 13:11 ` [PATCH 03/18] x86/resctrl: Create helper for RMID allocation and mondata dir creation James Morse
2023-01-06  3:23   ` Yu, Fenghua
2023-01-10 17:57     ` James Morse
2022-10-21 13:11 ` [PATCH 04/18] x86/resctrl: Move rmid allocation out of mkdir_rdt_prepare() James Morse
2022-11-10 10:50   ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2022-11-24 14:21     ` James Morse
2022-10-21 13:11 ` [PATCH 05/18] x86/resctrl: Allow RMID allocation to be scoped by CLOSID James Morse
2022-10-21 13:11 ` [PATCH 06/18] x86/resctrl: Allow the allocator to check if a CLOSID can allocate clean RMID James Morse
2022-11-08 15:57   ` Shawn Wang
2022-11-09 17:02     ` James Morse
2022-11-10 10:50   ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2022-11-24 14:21     ` James Morse
2022-10-21 13:11 ` [PATCH 07/18] x86/resctrl: Move CLOSID/RMID matching and setting to use helpers James Morse
2022-11-18 15:49   ` Valentin Schneider
2022-11-24 14:21     ` James Morse
2022-10-21 13:11 ` [PATCH 08/18] x86/resctrl: Queue mon_event_read() instead of sending an IPI James Morse
2022-10-21 13:11 ` [PATCH 09/18] x86/resctrl: Allow resctrl_arch_rmid_read() to sleep James Morse
2022-10-21 13:11 ` [PATCH 10/18] x86/resctrl: Allow arch to allocate memory needed in resctrl_arch_rmid_read() James Morse
2022-10-21 13:11 ` [PATCH 11/18] x86/resctrl: Make resctrl_mounted checks explicit James Morse
2022-10-21 13:11 ` [PATCH 12/18] x86/resctrl: Move alloc/mon static keys into helpers James Morse
2022-10-21 13:11 ` [PATCH 13/18] x86/resctrl: Make rdt_enable_key the arch's decision to switch James Morse
2022-10-21 13:12 ` [PATCH 14/18] x86/resctrl: Add helpers for system wide mon/alloc capable James Morse
2022-11-10 10:51   ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2022-11-24 14:22     ` James Morse
2022-10-21 13:12 ` [PATCH 15/18] x86/resctrl: Add cpu online callback for resctrl work James Morse
2022-10-21 13:12 ` [PATCH 16/18] x86/resctrl: Allow overflow/limbo handlers to be scheduled on any-but cpu James Morse
2022-10-21 13:12 ` [PATCH 17/18] x86/resctrl: Add cpu offline callback for resctrl work James Morse
2022-10-21 13:12 ` [PATCH 18/18] x86/resctrl: Separate arch and fs resctrl locks James Morse
2022-10-31 14:21   ` Peter Newman
2022-11-09 17:18     ` James Morse [this message]
2022-11-01  8:01 ` [PATCH 00/18] x86/resctrl: monitored closid+rmid together, separate arch/fs locking Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2022-11-09 17:21   ` James Morse

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=54bbb5b1-6d04-6d45-d6c9-45e714928cf4@arm.com \
    --to=james.morse@arm.com \
    --cc=Babu.Moger@amd.com \
    --cc=baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com \
    --cc=bobo.shaobowang@huawei.com \
    --cc=bp@alien8.de \
    --cc=carl@os.amperecomputing.com \
    --cc=fenghua.yu@intel.com \
    --cc=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=lcherian@marvell.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=peternewman@google.com \
    --cc=quic_jiles@quicinc.com \
    --cc=reinette.chatre@intel.com \
    --cc=scott@os.amperecomputing.com \
    --cc=shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com \
    --cc=tan.shaopeng@fujitsu.com \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=x86@kernel.org \
    --cc=xhao@linux.alibaba.com \
    --cc=xingxin.hx@openanolis.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®