* [PATCH] drm/xe/hwmon: refresh Battlemage thermal telemetry under force-wake
@ 2026-10-12 10:42 Constantinos Chalkias
2026-10-14 20:12 ` Rodrigo Vivi
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Constantinos Chalkias @ 2026-10-12 10:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: intel-xe
Cc: matthew.brost, thomas.hellstrom, rodrigo.vivi, airlied, simona,
dri-devel, linux-kernel
On Battlemage, thermal telemetry can remain stale after the GT returns
to RC6 following sustained workloads.
On an Intel Arc Pro B70, package and VRAM temperature telemetry may stop
refreshing after a long inference workload. Fan telemetry can also
become invalid while the physical blower remains elevated.
Acquire the GT force-wake domain around Battlemage thermal MMIO reads
and allow a short settling interval before reading the register. Route
package, VRAM and VRAM-channel availability reads through the helper.
Testing showed that an immediate read, as well as a 100-300 us delay,
could leave telemetry stale. A 500-1000 us delay recovered correctly
across repeated inference-to-idle cycles.
The change is restricted to Battlemage, where the behavior has been
reproduced and validated.
Signed-off-by: Constantinos Chalkias <cch@e-psn.eu>
---
drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_hwmon.c | 51 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
1 file changed, 45 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_hwmon.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_hwmon.c
index 5edeac961ec3..fee358ab9a6b 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_hwmon.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_hwmon.c
@@ -3,6 +3,7 @@
* Copyright © 2023 Intel Corporation
*/
+#include <linux/delay.h>
#include <linux/hwmon-sysfs.h>
#include <linux/hwmon.h>
#include <linux/jiffies.h>
@@ -14,6 +15,7 @@
#include "regs/xe_mchbar_regs.h"
#include "regs/xe_pcode_regs.h"
#include "xe_device.h"
+#include "xe_force_wake.h"
#include "xe_hwmon.h"
#include "xe_mmio.h"
#include "xe_pcode.h"
@@ -946,14 +948,43 @@ static void xe_hwmon_get_voltage(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, int channel, long *valu
*value = DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST(REG_FIELD_GET(VOLTAGE_MASK, reg_val) * 2500, SF_VOLTAGE);
}
-static inline bool is_vram_ch_available(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, int channel)
+static int xe_hwmon_temp_mmio_read(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon,
+ struct xe_reg reg, u32 *reg_val)
{
struct xe_mmio *mmio = xe_root_tile_mmio(hwmon->xe);
+
+ if (hwmon->xe->info.platform == XE_BATTLEMAGE) {
+ struct xe_gt *gt = xe_root_mmio_gt(hwmon->xe);
+
+ CLASS(xe_force_wake, fw_ref)(gt_to_fw(gt), XE_FW_GT);
+
+ if (!xe_force_wake_ref_has_domain(fw_ref.domains, XE_FW_GT))
+ return -ETIMEDOUT;
+
+ /*
+ * Allow thermal telemetry to refresh after leaving RC6
+ * before reading the temperature register.
+ */
+ usleep_range(500, 1000);
+
+ *reg_val = xe_mmio_read32(mmio, reg);
+ return 0;
+ }
+
+ *reg_val = xe_mmio_read32(mmio, reg);
+
+ return 0;
+}
+
+static inline bool is_vram_ch_available(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, int channel)
+{
int vram_id = channel - CHANNEL_VRAM_N;
struct xe_reg vram_reg;
+ u32 reg_val;
vram_reg = xe_hwmon_get_reg(hwmon, REG_TEMP, channel);
- if (!xe_reg_is_valid(vram_reg) || !xe_mmio_read32(mmio, vram_reg))
+ if (!xe_reg_is_valid(vram_reg) ||
+ xe_hwmon_temp_mmio_read(hwmon, vram_reg, ®_val) || !reg_val)
return false;
/* Create label only for available vram channel */
@@ -1025,15 +1056,19 @@ xe_hwmon_temp_is_visible(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, u32 attr, int channel)
static int
xe_hwmon_temp_read(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, u32 attr, int channel, long *val)
{
- struct xe_mmio *mmio = xe_root_tile_mmio(hwmon->xe);
- u64 reg_val;
+ u32 reg_val;
+ int ret;
switch (attr) {
case hwmon_temp_input:
switch (channel) {
case CHANNEL_PKG:
case CHANNEL_VRAM:
- reg_val = xe_mmio_read32(mmio, xe_hwmon_get_reg(hwmon, REG_TEMP, channel));
+ ret = xe_hwmon_temp_mmio_read(hwmon,
+ xe_hwmon_get_reg(hwmon, REG_TEMP, channel),
+ ®_val);
+ if (ret)
+ return ret;
/* HW register value is in degrees Celsius, convert to millidegrees. */
*val = REG_FIELD_GET(TEMP_MASK, reg_val) * MILLIDEGREE_PER_DEGREE;
@@ -1043,7 +1078,11 @@ xe_hwmon_temp_read(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, u32 attr, int channel, long *val)
case CHANNEL_PCIE:
return get_pcie_temp(hwmon, val);
case CHANNEL_VRAM_N...CHANNEL_VRAM_N_MAX:
- reg_val = xe_mmio_read32(mmio, xe_hwmon_get_reg(hwmon, REG_TEMP, channel));
+ ret = xe_hwmon_temp_mmio_read(hwmon,
+ xe_hwmon_get_reg(hwmon, REG_TEMP, channel),
+ ®_val);
+ if (ret)
+ return ret;
/*
* This temperature format is 24 bit [31:8] signed integer and 8 bit
* [7:0] fraction.
--
2.56.0
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* Re: [PATCH] drm/xe/hwmon: refresh Battlemage thermal telemetry under force-wake
2026-10-12 10:42 [PATCH] drm/xe/hwmon: refresh Battlemage thermal telemetry under force-wake Constantinos Chalkias
@ 2026-10-14 20:12 ` Rodrigo Vivi
2026-10-15 0:37 ` Constantinos Chalkias
2026-10-15 2:29 ` Simon Richter
0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Rodrigo Vivi @ 2026-10-14 20:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Constantinos Chalkias, Bata Roland Krisztián
Cc: intel-xe, matthew.brost, thomas.hellstrom, airlied, simona,
dri-devel, linux-kernel
On Mon, Oct 12, 2026 at 01:42:45PM +0300, Constantinos Chalkias wrote:
> On Battlemage, thermal telemetry can remain stale after the GT returns
> to RC6 following sustained workloads.
>
> On an Intel Arc Pro B70, package and VRAM temperature telemetry may stop
> refreshing after a long inference workload. Fan telemetry can also
> become invalid while the physical blower remains elevated.
>
> Acquire the GT force-wake domain around Battlemage thermal MMIO reads
> and allow a short settling interval before reading the register. Route
> package, VRAM and VRAM-channel availability reads through the helper.
>
> Testing showed that an immediate read, as well as a 100-300 us delay,
> could leave telemetry stale. A 500-1000 us delay recovered correctly
> across repeated inference-to-idle cycles.
>
> The change is restricted to Battlemage, where the behavior has been
> reproduced and validated.
>
> Signed-off-by: Constantinos Chalkias <cch@e-psn.eu>
Cc: Bata Roland Krisztián <batarolandkrisztian@gmail.com>
https://lore.kernel.org/intel-xe/179041811564.526373.13204522833274380927.b70-hwmon-rfc@gmail.com/
I believe you guys are facing the same dificulties and arriving to similar
conclusions.
If the consensus is that we need this forcewake, let's do it.
Let's just avoid duplication of efforts in here.
And thank you all for the contributions.
> ---
> drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_hwmon.c | 51 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
> 1 file changed, 45 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_hwmon.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_hwmon.c
> index 5edeac961ec3..fee358ab9a6b 100644
> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_hwmon.c
> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_hwmon.c
> @@ -3,6 +3,7 @@
> * Copyright © 2023 Intel Corporation
> */
>
> +#include <linux/delay.h>
> #include <linux/hwmon-sysfs.h>
> #include <linux/hwmon.h>
> #include <linux/jiffies.h>
> @@ -14,6 +15,7 @@
> #include "regs/xe_mchbar_regs.h"
> #include "regs/xe_pcode_regs.h"
> #include "xe_device.h"
> +#include "xe_force_wake.h"
> #include "xe_hwmon.h"
> #include "xe_mmio.h"
> #include "xe_pcode.h"
> @@ -946,14 +948,43 @@ static void xe_hwmon_get_voltage(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, int channel, long *valu
> *value = DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST(REG_FIELD_GET(VOLTAGE_MASK, reg_val) * 2500, SF_VOLTAGE);
> }
>
> -static inline bool is_vram_ch_available(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, int channel)
> +static int xe_hwmon_temp_mmio_read(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon,
> + struct xe_reg reg, u32 *reg_val)
> {
> struct xe_mmio *mmio = xe_root_tile_mmio(hwmon->xe);
> +
> + if (hwmon->xe->info.platform == XE_BATTLEMAGE) {
> + struct xe_gt *gt = xe_root_mmio_gt(hwmon->xe);
> +
> + CLASS(xe_force_wake, fw_ref)(gt_to_fw(gt), XE_FW_GT);
> +
> + if (!xe_force_wake_ref_has_domain(fw_ref.domains, XE_FW_GT))
> + return -ETIMEDOUT;
> +
> + /*
> + * Allow thermal telemetry to refresh after leaving RC6
> + * before reading the temperature register.
> + */
> + usleep_range(500, 1000);
> +
> + *reg_val = xe_mmio_read32(mmio, reg);
> + return 0;
> + }
> +
> + *reg_val = xe_mmio_read32(mmio, reg);
> +
> + return 0;
> +}
> +
> +static inline bool is_vram_ch_available(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, int channel)
> +{
> int vram_id = channel - CHANNEL_VRAM_N;
> struct xe_reg vram_reg;
> + u32 reg_val;
>
> vram_reg = xe_hwmon_get_reg(hwmon, REG_TEMP, channel);
> - if (!xe_reg_is_valid(vram_reg) || !xe_mmio_read32(mmio, vram_reg))
> + if (!xe_reg_is_valid(vram_reg) ||
> + xe_hwmon_temp_mmio_read(hwmon, vram_reg, ®_val) || !reg_val)
> return false;
>
> /* Create label only for available vram channel */
> @@ -1025,15 +1056,19 @@ xe_hwmon_temp_is_visible(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, u32 attr, int channel)
> static int
> xe_hwmon_temp_read(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, u32 attr, int channel, long *val)
> {
> - struct xe_mmio *mmio = xe_root_tile_mmio(hwmon->xe);
> - u64 reg_val;
> + u32 reg_val;
> + int ret;
>
> switch (attr) {
> case hwmon_temp_input:
> switch (channel) {
> case CHANNEL_PKG:
> case CHANNEL_VRAM:
> - reg_val = xe_mmio_read32(mmio, xe_hwmon_get_reg(hwmon, REG_TEMP, channel));
> + ret = xe_hwmon_temp_mmio_read(hwmon,
> + xe_hwmon_get_reg(hwmon, REG_TEMP, channel),
> + ®_val);
> + if (ret)
> + return ret;
>
> /* HW register value is in degrees Celsius, convert to millidegrees. */
> *val = REG_FIELD_GET(TEMP_MASK, reg_val) * MILLIDEGREE_PER_DEGREE;
> @@ -1043,7 +1078,11 @@ xe_hwmon_temp_read(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, u32 attr, int channel, long *val)
> case CHANNEL_PCIE:
> return get_pcie_temp(hwmon, val);
> case CHANNEL_VRAM_N...CHANNEL_VRAM_N_MAX:
> - reg_val = xe_mmio_read32(mmio, xe_hwmon_get_reg(hwmon, REG_TEMP, channel));
> + ret = xe_hwmon_temp_mmio_read(hwmon,
> + xe_hwmon_get_reg(hwmon, REG_TEMP, channel),
> + ®_val);
> + if (ret)
> + return ret;
> /*
> * This temperature format is 24 bit [31:8] signed integer and 8 bit
> * [7:0] fraction.
> --
> 2.56.0
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] drm/xe/hwmon: refresh Battlemage thermal telemetry under force-wake
2026-10-14 20:12 ` Rodrigo Vivi
@ 2026-10-15 0:37 ` Constantinos Chalkias
2026-10-15 2:29 ` Simon Richter
1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Constantinos Chalkias @ 2026-10-15 0:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rodrigo Vivi
Cc: Bata Roland Krisztián, intel-xe, matthew.brost,
thomas.hellstrom, airlied, simona, dri-devel, linux-kernel
Hi Rodrigo,
Thanks for pointing this out. Yes, this appears to be the same issue,
and I agree we should avoid parallel fixes.
My follow-up testing independently converged on a very similar result. I
narrowed the workaround to CHANNEL_PKG only. A 500-1000 us GT force-wake
interval was not reliable, while 3000-3500 us was.
In the most controlled test I disabled both hwmon pollers, stopped the
inference workload, and the physical blower remained latched at high
speed for more than five minutes while the GPU was otherwise idle. A
single package-temperature read using XE_FW_GT with a 3000-3500 us
interval immediately caused the blower to return to normal.
I also saw the later RFC follow-up showing that both GT-only and
RENDER-only longer pulses could refresh the telemetry and were followed
by fan slowdown, which seems consistent with this result.
I won't send a competing v2. I'm happy to contribute these measurements
to the existing RFC effort and help test whatever implementation you
prefer to converge on.
Thanks,
Constantinos
On 2026-10-14 23:12, Rodrigo Vivi wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2026 at 01:42:45PM +0300, Constantinos Chalkias wrote:
>> On Battlemage, thermal telemetry can remain stale after the GT returns
>> to RC6 following sustained workloads.
>>
>> On an Intel Arc Pro B70, package and VRAM temperature telemetry may
>> stop
>> refreshing after a long inference workload. Fan telemetry can also
>> become invalid while the physical blower remains elevated.
>>
>> Acquire the GT force-wake domain around Battlemage thermal MMIO reads
>> and allow a short settling interval before reading the register. Route
>> package, VRAM and VRAM-channel availability reads through the helper.
>>
>> Testing showed that an immediate read, as well as a 100-300 us delay,
>> could leave telemetry stale. A 500-1000 us delay recovered correctly
>> across repeated inference-to-idle cycles.
>>
>> The change is restricted to Battlemage, where the behavior has been
>> reproduced and validated.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Constantinos Chalkias <cch@e-psn.eu>
>
> Cc: Bata Roland Krisztián <batarolandkrisztian@gmail.com>
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/intel-xe/179041811564.526373.13204522833274380927.b70-hwmon-rfc@gmail.com/
>
> I believe you guys are facing the same dificulties and arriving to
> similar
> conclusions.
>
> If the consensus is that we need this forcewake, let's do it.
>
> Let's just avoid duplication of efforts in here.
>
> And thank you all for the contributions.
>
>> ---
>> drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_hwmon.c | 51
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
>> 1 file changed, 45 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_hwmon.c
>> b/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_hwmon.c
>> index 5edeac961ec3..fee358ab9a6b 100644
>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_hwmon.c
>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_hwmon.c
>> @@ -3,6 +3,7 @@
>> * Copyright © 2023 Intel Corporation
>> */
>>
>> +#include <linux/delay.h>
>> #include <linux/hwmon-sysfs.h>
>> #include <linux/hwmon.h>
>> #include <linux/jiffies.h>
>> @@ -14,6 +15,7 @@
>> #include "regs/xe_mchbar_regs.h"
>> #include "regs/xe_pcode_regs.h"
>> #include "xe_device.h"
>> +#include "xe_force_wake.h"
>> #include "xe_hwmon.h"
>> #include "xe_mmio.h"
>> #include "xe_pcode.h"
>> @@ -946,14 +948,43 @@ static void xe_hwmon_get_voltage(struct xe_hwmon
>> *hwmon, int channel, long *valu
>> *value = DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST(REG_FIELD_GET(VOLTAGE_MASK, reg_val) *
>> 2500, SF_VOLTAGE);
>> }
>>
>> -static inline bool is_vram_ch_available(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, int
>> channel)
>> +static int xe_hwmon_temp_mmio_read(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon,
>> + struct xe_reg reg, u32 *reg_val)
>> {
>> struct xe_mmio *mmio = xe_root_tile_mmio(hwmon->xe);
>> +
>> + if (hwmon->xe->info.platform == XE_BATTLEMAGE) {
>> + struct xe_gt *gt = xe_root_mmio_gt(hwmon->xe);
>> +
>> + CLASS(xe_force_wake, fw_ref)(gt_to_fw(gt), XE_FW_GT);
>> +
>> + if (!xe_force_wake_ref_has_domain(fw_ref.domains, XE_FW_GT))
>> + return -ETIMEDOUT;
>> +
>> + /*
>> + * Allow thermal telemetry to refresh after leaving RC6
>> + * before reading the temperature register.
>> + */
>> + usleep_range(500, 1000);
>> +
>> + *reg_val = xe_mmio_read32(mmio, reg);
>> + return 0;
>> + }
>> +
>> + *reg_val = xe_mmio_read32(mmio, reg);
>> +
>> + return 0;
>> +}
>> +
>> +static inline bool is_vram_ch_available(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, int
>> channel)
>> +{
>> int vram_id = channel - CHANNEL_VRAM_N;
>> struct xe_reg vram_reg;
>> + u32 reg_val;
>>
>> vram_reg = xe_hwmon_get_reg(hwmon, REG_TEMP, channel);
>> - if (!xe_reg_is_valid(vram_reg) || !xe_mmio_read32(mmio, vram_reg))
>> + if (!xe_reg_is_valid(vram_reg) ||
>> + xe_hwmon_temp_mmio_read(hwmon, vram_reg, ®_val) || !reg_val)
>> return false;
>>
>> /* Create label only for available vram channel */
>> @@ -1025,15 +1056,19 @@ xe_hwmon_temp_is_visible(struct xe_hwmon
>> *hwmon, u32 attr, int channel)
>> static int
>> xe_hwmon_temp_read(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, u32 attr, int channel,
>> long *val)
>> {
>> - struct xe_mmio *mmio = xe_root_tile_mmio(hwmon->xe);
>> - u64 reg_val;
>> + u32 reg_val;
>> + int ret;
>>
>> switch (attr) {
>> case hwmon_temp_input:
>> switch (channel) {
>> case CHANNEL_PKG:
>> case CHANNEL_VRAM:
>> - reg_val = xe_mmio_read32(mmio, xe_hwmon_get_reg(hwmon, REG_TEMP,
>> channel));
>> + ret = xe_hwmon_temp_mmio_read(hwmon,
>> + xe_hwmon_get_reg(hwmon, REG_TEMP, channel),
>> + ®_val);
>> + if (ret)
>> + return ret;
>>
>> /* HW register value is in degrees Celsius, convert to
>> millidegrees. */
>> *val = REG_FIELD_GET(TEMP_MASK, reg_val) * MILLIDEGREE_PER_DEGREE;
>> @@ -1043,7 +1078,11 @@ xe_hwmon_temp_read(struct xe_hwmon *hwmon, u32
>> attr, int channel, long *val)
>> case CHANNEL_PCIE:
>> return get_pcie_temp(hwmon, val);
>> case CHANNEL_VRAM_N...CHANNEL_VRAM_N_MAX:
>> - reg_val = xe_mmio_read32(mmio, xe_hwmon_get_reg(hwmon, REG_TEMP,
>> channel));
>> + ret = xe_hwmon_temp_mmio_read(hwmon,
>> + xe_hwmon_get_reg(hwmon, REG_TEMP, channel),
>> + ®_val);
>> + if (ret)
>> + return ret;
>> /*
>> * This temperature format is 24 bit [31:8] signed integer and 8
>> bit
>> * [7:0] fraction.
>> --
>> 2.56.0
>>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] drm/xe/hwmon: refresh Battlemage thermal telemetry under force-wake
2026-10-14 20:12 ` Rodrigo Vivi
2026-10-15 0:37 ` Constantinos Chalkias
@ 2026-10-15 2:29 ` Simon Richter
1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Simon Richter @ 2026-10-15 2:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rodrigo Vivi, Constantinos Chalkias, Bata Roland Krisztián
Cc: intel-xe, matthew.brost, thomas.hellstrom, airlied, simona,
dri-devel, linux-kernel
Hi,
On 10/15/26 5:12 AM, Rodrigo Vivi wrote:
> If the consensus is that we need this forcewake, let's do it.
It feels like we haven't really understood the problem yet, we just know
something that appears to work.
If I run
while true; do sleep 5 >forcewake_all; sleep 5; done & watch sensors
then the temperature sensors *do* update, but several of the VRAM
channels take over a minute, so the long forcewake does not solve the
problem. If shorter ones do, then I'd really like to understand why; my
theory is that it's not the forcewake itself that does the job, but the
fact that it's toggling, and possibly generating some events in some
microcontroller. It may be sufficient to send some no-op commands
instead of playing with the power rails.
Starting the loop above with pretty much everything at a nice toasty
equilibrium temperature of 82 degrees (which is way too much IMO for a
card that has no client connected and is just displaying a console
login), the fans immediately come on, and apparently every ten seconds
one of the VRAM channels updates to a lower temperature, so one
forcewake event pretty much exactly corresponds to one sensor update.
That would explain why the patch works -- it generates the same number
of forcewake events as sensor reads, and the delay makes sure they are
registered as separate events. However, there is no correspondence
between the event and the sensor, so if I do my normal telemetry
recording (every sensor once every ten seconds) I can still get data
that is ten seconds old, and I also wake up the GPU once every ten
seconds even if there is nothing to do.
That is an improvement over the status quo, but my concern is that it
will push us over into "good enough" territory where the actual problem
is never addressed.
Simon
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