From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Cristian Prundeanu <cpru@amazon.com>,
"Gautham R. Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>
Cc: linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Bjoern Doebel <doebel@amazon.com>,
Hazem Mohamed Abuelfotoh <abuehaze@amazon.com>,
Geoff Blake <blakgeof@amazon.com>,
Ali Saidi <alisaidi@amazon.com>, Csaba Csoma <csabac@amazon.com>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] [tip: sched/core] sched: Disable PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY and move them to sysctl
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 11:21:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <570e25e1-03c2-4ae1-8e4c-447a453a9d34@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241029045749.37257-1-cpru@amazon.com>
Hi Christian,
On 29/10/2024 05:57, Cristian Prundeanu wrote:
> Hi Gautham,
>
> On 2024-10-25, 09:44, "Gautham R. Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com <mailto:gautham.shenoy@amd.com>> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 07:12:49PM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2024-10-19 at 02:30 +0000, Prundeanu, Cristian wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The hammerdb test is a bit more complex than sysbench. It uses two
>>>> independent physical machines to perform a TPC-C derived test [1], aiming
>>>> to simulate a real-world database workload. The machines are allocated as
>>>> an AWS EC2 instance pair on the same cluster placement group [2], to avoid
>>>> measuring network bottlenecks instead of server performance. The SUT
>>>> instance runs mysql configured to use 2 worker threads per vCPU (32
>>>> total); the load generator instance runs hammerdb configured with 64
>>>> virtual users and 24 warehouses [3]. Each test consists of multiple
>>>> 20-minute rounds, run consecutively on multiple independent instance
>>>> pairs.
>>>
>>> Would it be possible to produce something that Prateek and Gautham
>>> (Hi Gautham btw !) can easily consume to reproduce ?
>>>
>>> Maybe a container image or a pair of container images hammering each
>>> other ? (the simpler the better).
>>
>> Yes, that would be useful. Please share your recipe. We will try and
>> reproduce it at our end. In our testing from a few months ago (some of
>> which was presented at OSPM 2024), most of the database related
>> regressions that we observed with EEVDF went away after running these
>> the server threads under SCHED_BATCH.
>
> I am working on a repro package that is self contained and as simple to
> share as possible.
>
> My testing with SCHED_BATCH is meanwhile concluded. It did reduce the
> regression to less than half - but only with WAKEUP_PREEMPTION enabled.
> When using NO_WAKEUP_PREEMPTION, there was no performance change compared
> to SCHED_OTHER.
Which tasks did you set SCHED_BATCH here? I'm assuming the mysql
'connection' tasks on the SUT (1 task for each virtual user I guess).
I did this and see that the regression goes away. I'm using a similar
test setup (hammerdb - mysql on AWS EC2 instances).
I'm not sure yet how reliable my results are. The big unknown is the
host system when I use AWS EC2 instances for hammerdb (Load Gen) and
mysql (server). In case I gather test results over multiple days, the
host system might have changed?
I also tried the (not-mainlined) RESPECT_SLICE (NO_RUN_TO_PARITY)
features which shows similar results compared to SCHED_BATCH for those
threads.
IIRC, RESPECT_SLICE was also helping Gautham to get the performance back
for his 'sysbench + mysql' workload:
OSPM 24 link to his presentation:
https://youtu.be/jrEN4pJiRWU?t=1115
> (At the risk of stating the obvious, using SCHED_BATCH only to get back to
> the default CFS performance is still only a workaround, just as disabling
> PLACE_LAG+RUN_TO_PARITY is; these give us more room to investigate the
> root cause in EEVDF, but shouldn't be seen as viable alternate solutions.)
>
> Do you have more detail on the database regressions you saw a few months
> ago? What was the magnitude, and which workloads did it manifest on?
>
> -Cristian
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-30 10:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-19 2:30 Prundeanu, Cristian
2024-10-24 8:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2024-10-25 14:43 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-10-29 4:57 ` Cristian Prundeanu
2024-10-30 10:21 ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2024-11-01 13:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-04 10:19 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-11-04 10:34 ` K Prateek Nayak
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-01-28 23:09 Cristian Prundeanu
2025-02-11 3:27 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-02-12 5:41 ` Cristian Prundeanu
2025-02-12 9:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-19 11:04 [GIT PULL] sched/urgent for v6.13 Borislav Petkov
2024-10-17 5:19 [PATCH 0/2] [tip: sched/core] sched: Disable PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY and move them to sysctl Cristian Prundeanu
2024-10-17 9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-17 18:19 ` Prundeanu, Cristian
2024-10-18 7:07 ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-10-18 9:54 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2024-11-14 20:10 ` Joseph Salisbury
2024-11-19 10:29 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-11-25 11:35 ` Cristian Prundeanu
2024-11-26 3:58 ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-26 15:12 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-11-28 10:32 ` Cristian Prundeanu
2024-11-29 10:12 ` Dietmar Eggemann
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