From: Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@oracle.com>
To: Cristian Prundeanu <cpru@amazon.com>, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Bjoern Doebel <doebel@amazon.com>,
Hazem Mohamed Abuelfotoh <abuehaze@amazon.com>,
Geoff Blake <blakgeof@amazon.com>,
Ali Saidi <alisaidi@amazon.com>, Csaba Csoma <csabac@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] [tip: sched/core] sched: Disable PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY and move them to sysctl
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:10:57 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ca5c6d15-7205-45e0-96a9-e78ab2a52b45@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241017052000.99200-1-cpru@amazon.com>
On 10/17/24 01:19, Cristian Prundeanu wrote:
> This patchset disables the scheduler features PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY
> and moves them to sysctl.
>
> Replacing CFS with the EEVDF scheduler in kernel 6.6 introduced
> significant performance degradation in multiple database-oriented
> workloads. This degradation manifests in all kernel versions using EEVDF,
> across multiple Linux distributions, hardware architectures (x86_64,
> aarm64, amd64), and CPU generations.
>
> For example, running mysql+hammerdb results in a 12-17% throughput
> reduction and 12-18% latency increase compared to kernel 6.5 (using
> default scheduler settings everywhere). The magnitude of this performance
> impact is comparable to the average performance difference of a CPU
> generation over its predecessor.
>
> Testing combinations of available scheduler features showed that the
> largest improvement (short of disabling all EEVDF features) came from
> disabling both PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY:
>
> Kernel | default | NO_PLACE_LAG and
> aarm64 | config | NO_RUN_TO_PARITY
> ---------+----------+-----------------
> 6.5 | baseline | N/A
> 6.6 | -13.2% | -6.8%
> 6.7 | -13.1% | -6.0%
> 6.8 | -12.3% | -6.5%
> 6.9 | -12.7% | -6.9%
> 6.10 | -13.5% | -5.8%
> 6.11 | -12.6% | -5.8%
> 6.12-rc2 | -12.2% | -8.9%
> ---------+----------+-----------------
>
> Kernel | default | NO_PLACE_LAG and
> x86_64 | config | NO_RUN_TO_PARITY
> ---------+----------+-----------------
> 6.5 | baseline | N/A
> 6.6 | -16.8% | -10.8%
> 6.7 | -16.4% | -9.9%
> 6.8 | -17.2% | -9.5%
> 6.9 | -17.4% | -9.7%
> 6.10 | -16.5% | -9.0%
> 6.11 | -15.0% | -8.5%
> 6.12-rc2 | -12.7% | -10.9%
> ---------+----------+-----------------
>
> While the long term approach is debugging and fixing the scheduler
> behavior, algorithm changes to address performance issues of this nature
> are specialized (and likely prolonged or open-ended) research. Until a
> change is identified which fixes the performance degradation, in the
> interest of a better out-of-the-box performance: (1) disable these
> features by default, and (2) expose these values in sysctl instead of
> debugfs, so they can be more easily persisted across reboots.
>
> Cristian Prundeanu (2):
> sched: Disable PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY
> sched: Move PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY to sysctl
>
> include/linux/sched/sysctl.h | 8 ++++++++
> kernel/sched/core.c | 13 +++++++++++++
> kernel/sched/fair.c | 5 +++--
> kernel/sched/features.h | 10 ----------
> kernel/sysctl.c | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++
> 5 files changed, 44 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
>
Hi Cristian,
This is a confirmation that we are also seeing a 9% performance
regression with the TPCC benchmark after v6.6-rc1. We narrowed down the
regression was caused due to commit:
86bfbb7ce4f6 ("sched/fair: Add lag based placement")
This regression was reported via this thread:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1c447727-92ed-416c-bca1-a7ca0974f0df@oracle.com/
Phil Auld suggested to try turning off the PLACE_LAG sched feature. We
tested with NO_PLACE_LAG and can confirm it brought back 5% of the
performance loss. We do not yet know what effect NO_PLACE_LAG will have
on other benchmarks, but it indeed helps TPCC.
Thanks for the work to move PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY to sysctl!
Joe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-14 20:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-17 5:19 Cristian Prundeanu
2024-10-17 5:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] [tip: sched/core] sched: Disable PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY Cristian Prundeanu
2024-10-17 5:20 ` [PATCH 2/2] [tip: sched/core] sched: Move PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY to sysctl Cristian Prundeanu
2024-10-17 9:10 ` [PATCH 0/2] [tip: sched/core] sched: Disable PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY and move them " Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-17 18:19 ` Prundeanu, Cristian
2024-10-18 7:07 ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-10-18 9:54 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2024-11-14 20:10 ` Joseph Salisbury [this message]
2024-11-19 10:29 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-11-25 11:35 ` Cristian Prundeanu
2024-11-26 3:58 ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-26 15:12 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-11-28 10:32 ` Cristian Prundeanu
2024-11-29 10:12 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-10-19 2:30 Prundeanu, Cristian
2024-10-24 8:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2024-10-25 14:43 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-10-29 4:57 ` Cristian Prundeanu
2024-10-30 10:21 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-11-01 13:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-04 10:19 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2024-11-04 10:34 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-01-19 11:04 [GIT PULL] sched/urgent for v6.13 Borislav Petkov
2025-01-28 23:09 [PATCH 0/2] [tip: sched/core] sched: Disable PLACE_LAG and RUN_TO_PARITY and move them to sysctl Cristian Prundeanu
2025-02-11 3:27 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-02-12 5:41 ` Cristian Prundeanu
2025-02-12 9:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
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