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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>,
	Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86_64, asm: Work around AMD SYSRET SS descriptor attribute issue
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 12:59:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <61BCF405-8000-43EB-A6B1-2BF5677E4ADE@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150427185344.GI28871@pd.tnic>

It really comes down to this: it seems older cores from both Intel and AMD perform better with 66 66 66 90, whereas the 0F 1F series is better on newer cores.

When I measured it, the differences were sometimes dramatic.

On April 27, 2015 11:53:44 AM PDT, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
>On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:47:30AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
>wrote:
>> >
>> > So our current NOP-infrastructure does ASM_NOP_MAX NOPs of 8 bytes
>so
>> > without more invasive changes, our longest NOPs are 8 byte long and
>then
>> > we have to repeat.
>> 
>> Btw (and I'm too lazy to check) do we take alignment into account?
>> 
>> Because if you have to split, and use multiple nops, it is *probably*
>> a good idea to try to avoid 16-byte boundaries, since that's can be
>> the I$ fetch granularity from L1 (although I guess 32B is getting
>more
>> common).
>
>Yeah, on F16h you have 32B fetch but the paths later in the machine
>gets narrower, so to speak.
>
>> So the exact split might depend on the alignment of the nop
>replacement..
>
>Yeah, no. Our add_nops() is trivial:
>
>/* Use this to add nops to a buffer, then text_poke the whole buffer.
>*/
>static void __init_or_module add_nops(void *insns, unsigned int len)
>{
>        while (len > 0) {
>                unsigned int noplen = len;
>                if (noplen > ASM_NOP_MAX)
>                        noplen = ASM_NOP_MAX;
>                memcpy(insns, ideal_nops[noplen], noplen);
>                insns += noplen;
>                len -= noplen;
>        }
>}
>
>> Can we perhaps get rid of the distinction entirely, and just use one
>> set of 64-bit nops for both Intel/AMD?
>
>I *think* hpa would have an opinion here. I'm judging by looking at
>comments like this one in the code:
>
>        /*
>         * Due to a decoder implementation quirk, some
>         * specific Intel CPUs actually perform better with
>         * the "k8_nops" than with the SDM-recommended NOPs.
>         */
>
>which is a fun one in itself. :-)

-- 
Sent from my mobile phone.  Please pardon brevity and lack of formatting.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-27 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-24  2:15 Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-24  2:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-26 12:34   ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-24  3:58 ` Brian Gerst
2015-04-24  9:59 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-24 10:59   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-24 19:58     ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-24 11:27 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-24 12:00   ` Brian Gerst
2015-04-24 16:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-24 17:33       ` Brian Gerst
2015-04-24 17:41         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-24 17:57           ` Brian Gerst
2015-04-24 20:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-24 20:46   ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-24 20:50     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-24 21:45       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-04-24 21:45       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-04-24 21:45       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-04-24 21:45       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-04-24 21:45       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-04-24 21:45       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-04-25  2:17       ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-26 23:36         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-24 20:53   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-25 21:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-26 11:22   ` perf numbers (was: Re: [PATCH] x86_64, asm: Work around AMD SYSRET SS descriptor attribute issue) Borislav Petkov
2015-04-26 23:39   ` [PATCH] x86_64, asm: Work around AMD SYSRET SS descriptor attribute issue Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-27  8:53     ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-27 10:07       ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-27 10:09         ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-27 11:35       ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-27 12:08         ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-27 12:48           ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-27 14:57         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-27 15:06           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-27 15:35             ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-27 15:46           ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-27 15:56             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-27 16:04               ` Brian Gerst
2015-04-27 16:10                 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-27 16:00             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-27 16:40               ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-27 18:14                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-27 18:38                   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-27 18:47                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-27 18:53                       ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-27 19:59                         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2015-04-27 20:03                           ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-27 20:14                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-04-28 15:55                               ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-28 16:28                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-28 16:58                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-28 17:16                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-28 18:38                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-30 21:39                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-04-30 23:23                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-05-01  9:03                                             ` Borislav Petkov
2015-05-03 11:51                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-27 19:11                     ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-27 19:21                       ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-27 19:45                         ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-28 13:40                           ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-27 16:12           ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-27 18:12             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-27 18:47               ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-27 14:39     ` Borislav Petkov

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