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From: "David Wang" <00107082@163.com>
To: "Yeoreum Yun" <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com, mingo@kernel.org,
	acme@kernel.org, namhyung@kernel.org, leo.yan@arm.com,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com,
	jolsa@kernel.org, irogers@google.com, adrian.hunter@intel.com,
	kan.liang@linux.intel.com, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] perf/core: fix dangling cgroup pointer in cpuctx
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2025 16:15:58 +0800 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <641140e5.84ac.19734dc8ac2.Coremail.00107082@163.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aD6hVAuHGNZjrKpr@e129823.arm.com>


At 2025-06-03 15:16:36, "Yeoreum Yun" <yeoreum.yun@arm.com> wrote:
>Hi David,
>
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Also, your patch couldn't solve a problem describe in
>> > > commit a3c3c6667("perf/core: Fix child_total_time_enabled accounting bug at task exit")
>> > > for INCATIVE event's total_enable_time.
>> >
>> > I do not think so.
>> > Correct me if I am making silly  mistakes,
>> > The patch, https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250603032651.3988-1-00107082@163.com/
>> > calls perf_event_set_state() based on DETACH_EXIT flag, which cover the INACTIVE state, right?
>> > If DETACH_EXIT is not used for this purpose? Then why should it exist at the first place?
>> > I think I does not revert the purpose of commit a3c3c6667.....But I could be wrong
>> > Would you show a call path where DETACH_EXIT is not set, but the changes in commit a3c3c6667 is still needed?
>> >
>> > Sorry for my bad explaination without detail.
>> > Think about cpu specific event and closed by task.
>> > If there is specific child cpu event specified in cpu 0.
>> > 1. cpu 0 -> active
>> > 2. scheulded to cpu1 -> inactive
>> > 3. close the cpu event from parent -> inactive close
>> >
>> > Can be failed to count total_enable_time.
>>
>> Is this explaining the purpose of commit a3c3c6667 ?
>> I am not arguing with it. And I also not suggest reverting it. (it is just that reverting it can fix the kernel panic.)
>
>In commit a3c3c6667, I explain the specific case but not with above
>case. But the commit's purpose is "account total_enable_time" properly.
>
>> > And also, considering the your patch, for DETACH_EXIT case,
>> > If it changes the state before list_del_event() that wouldn't disable
>> > related to the cgroup. So it would make cpuctx->cgrp pointer could be dangled
>> > as patch describe...
>> No, I don't think so.
>> change state before list_del_event(), this is the same behavior before commit a3c3c6667, right?
>> And no such kernel panic happened  before commit a3c3c6667.

Oh! I was wrong, before commit a3c3c6667, "change state" happened *after* list_del_event()
>
>That's why list_del_event() handle the perf_cgroup_disable() before the
>commit a3c3c6667. However because of *my mistake*, I've forget to
>perf_cgroup_disable() properly before change the event state.
>Yes, your patch can make avoid the panic since as soon as exit,
>the event->cgrp switched.

 I cannot agree with the reasoning, 
The panic dose not happened when exit, it happened when reboot/shutdown.
(I close perf_event_open before reboot)





>
>However, as I said, the INACTIVE event could be failed to count
>total_enable_time.
>
>So, set event should be occured before list_del_event().
>And since it's event->state change on remove.
>It shouldn't have any side effect the state change isn't cause of your
>panic. But missed perf_cgroup_disable().

Any procedure to bring out the impact of this missed perf_cgroup_disable()?
My system seems all normal, where should I check it?

But to fix it,  isn't following change less aggressive?
        event_sched_out(event, ctx);
-       perf_event_set_state(event, min(event->state, state));
        if (flags & DETACH_GROUP)
                perf_group_detach(event);
        if (flags & DETACH_CHILD)
                perf_child_detach(event);
        list_del_event(event, ctx);
+       perf_event_set_state(event, min(event->state, state));
 

David


>
>Thanks.
>--
>Sincerely,
>Yeoreum Yun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-03  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-02 18:40 Yeoreum Yun
2025-06-03  2:01 ` David Wang
2025-06-03  4:46   ` [PATCH " Yeoreum Yun
2025-06-03  5:44     ` David Wang
2025-06-03  6:34       ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-06-03  6:39         ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-06-03  6:47           ` David Wang
2025-06-03  6:42         ` David Wang
2025-06-03  7:16           ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-06-03  7:31             ` David Wang
2025-06-03  8:15             ` David Wang [this message]
2025-06-03  6:54         ` David Wang
2025-06-03  9:20         ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-06-03 10:08           ` David Wang
2025-06-03 13:41             ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-06-03 14:02               ` David Wang
2025-06-03 14:00 ` Leo Yan
2025-06-03 14:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-03 15:17     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-06-04  7:06       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-04  8:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-04 10:06       ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-06-04 12:37         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-04 12:54           ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-06-04 10:18       ` Leo Yan
2025-06-04 13:58         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-04 15:17           ` Leo Yan
2025-06-11  9:29           ` [tip: perf/urgent] perf: Add comment to enum perf_event_state tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-04 14:16         ` [PATCH 1/1] perf/core: fix dangling cgroup pointer in cpuctx Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-04 15:46           ` Leo Yan
2025-06-04 15:59             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-05 11:29             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-05 12:33               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-05 17:21                 ` Leo Yan
2025-06-11  9:29                 ` [tip: perf/urgent] perf: Fix cgroup state vs ERROR tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-05 11:41           ` [PATCH 1/1] perf/core: fix dangling cgroup pointer in cpuctx Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-03 15:05   ` Yeoreum Yun

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