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From: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Benjamin Blum <bblum@google.com>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] Makes procs file writable to move all threads by tgid  at once
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 03:42:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6599ad830908060342m1fc8cdd2me25af248a8e0e183@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1249554853.32113.145.camel@twins>

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Peter Zijlstra<a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 03:28 -0700, Paul Menage wrote:
>
>> OK, well if lockdep can't currently handle the "writer takes a lock on
>> every thread" model,
>
> I haven't read what this is about, but simply looking at that sentence
> makes me want to hit someone with a cluebat. Have you any idea how
> expensive that is?

For lockdep to track that many locks, or just the concept of taking
that many locks generally?

The basic idea is that in order to implement a "procs" file in cgroups
that can migrate all threads in a process atomically, we need to
synchronize with concurrent clone() calls. But since thread clones are
likely to occur far more often than "procs" writes, and we wanted to
avoid introducing overhead into the clone path, one approach was to
give each thread a fork mutex, which it could take around the relevant
parts of the fork/clone operation, and have the "procs" writer deal
with obtaining the fork mutex for every thread in the process being
moved, so pushing the overhead on to the "procs" writer.

I don't think it's a deficiency of lockdep that it would have trouble
dealing with this - in fact, my original plan was that we'd just have
to live with the fact that anyone doing a "procs" move on a massive
process would have to live with lockdep printing an overflow warning.
But given that AFAICS we can eliminate the overhead associated with a
single lock by piggy-backing on the cache line containing
sighand->count, hopefully this won't be an issue any more.

Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-06 10:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-31  1:51 [PATCH v2 0/6] CGroups: cgroup memberlist enhancement+fix Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 1/6] Adds a read-only "procs" file similar to "tasks" that shows only unique tgids Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 2/6] Ensures correct concurrent opening/reading of pidlists across pid namespaces Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 3/6] Quick vmalloc vs kmalloc fix to the case where array size is too large Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 4/6] Changes css_set freeing mechanism to be under RCU Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 5/6] Lets ss->can_attach and ss->attach do whole threadgroups at a time Ben Blum
2009-08-03  2:22   ` Li Zefan
2009-08-04  0:35     ` Benjamin Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 6/6] Makes procs file writable to move all threads by tgid at once Ben Blum
2009-08-03  3:00   ` Li Zefan
2009-08-04  0:56     ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-04  1:05       ` Paul Menage
2009-08-04  1:11         ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-04  1:09       ` Li Zefan
2009-08-04  1:19         ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-04  1:45           ` Li Zefan
2009-08-04  1:55             ` Paul Menage
2009-08-03 17:54   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-08-03 18:07     ` Paul Menage
2009-08-03 18:13     ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-03 18:55       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-08-03 19:45         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-08-03 19:55           ` Paul Menage
2009-08-04 14:01             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-08-04 21:40             ` Matt Helsley
2009-08-04 18:48           ` Paul Menage
2009-08-04 19:01             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-08-04 19:14             ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-04 19:28               ` Paul Menage
2009-08-05 10:20                 ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-05 16:11                   ` Paul Menage
2009-08-05 16:42                     ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-05 16:53                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06  0:01                       ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-06  9:58                         ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-06 10:04                           ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-06 10:28                           ` Paul Menage
2009-08-06 10:34                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 10:42                               ` Paul Menage [this message]
2009-08-06 11:02                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 11:24                                   ` Paul Menage
2009-08-06 11:39                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 15:19                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-08-06 15:24                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 15:37                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-08-06 11:24                             ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-06 11:40                               ` Paul Menage
2009-08-06 14:54                                 ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-08  1:41                                 ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-08  1:51                                   ` Benjamin Blum

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