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From: Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>
To: Bert Karwatzki <spasswolf@web.de>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>, "Kees Cook" <kees@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: commit 7ffb791423c7 breaks steam game
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2025 17:51:29 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <688f2757-e364-45db-ad54-daa6ff1c4f3c@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250322122351.3268-1-spasswolf@web.de>

On 3/22/25 23:23, Bert Karwatzki wrote:
> The problem occurs in this part of ttm_tt_populate(), in the nokaslr case
> the loop is entered and repeatedly run because ttm_dma32_pages allocated exceeds
> the ttm_dma32_pages_limit which leads to lots of calls to ttm_global_swapout().
> 
> if (!strcmp(get_current()->comm, "stellaris"))
> 	printk(KERN_INFO "%s: ttm_pages_allocated=0x%llx ttm_pages_limit=0x%lx ttm_dma32_pages_allocated=0x%llx ttm_dma32_pages_limit=0x%lx\n",
> 			__func__, ttm_pages_allocated.counter, ttm_pages_limit, ttm_dma32_pages_allocated.counter, ttm_dma32_pages_limit);
> while (atomic_long_read(&ttm_pages_allocated) > ttm_pages_limit ||
>        atomic_long_read(&ttm_dma32_pages_allocated) >
>        ttm_dma32_pages_limit) {
> 
> 	if (!strcmp(get_current()->comm, "stellaris"))
> 	printk(KERN_INFO "%s: count=%d ttm_pages_allocated=0x%llx ttm_pages_limit=0x%lx ttm_dma32_pages_allocated=0x%llx ttm_dma32_pages_limit=0x%lx\n",
> 			__func__, count++, ttm_pages_allocated.counter, ttm_pages_limit, ttm_dma32_pages_allocated.counter, ttm_dma32_pages_limit);
> 	ret = ttm_global_swapout(ctx, GFP_KERNEL);
> 	if (ret == 0)
> 		break;
> 	if (ret < 0)
> 		goto error;
> }
> 
> In the case without nokaslr on the number of ttm_dma32_pages_allocated is 0 because
> use_dma32 == false in this case.
> 
> So why is use_dma32 enabled with nokaslr? Some more printk()s give this result:
> 
> The GPUs:
> built-in:
> 08:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cezanne [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Vega Mobile Series] (rev c5)
> discrete:
> 03:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 23 [Radeon RX 6600/6600 XT/6600M] (rev c3)
> 
> With nokaslr:
> [    1.266517] [    T328] dma_addressing_limited: mask = 0xfffffffffff bus_dma_limit = 0x0 required_mask = 0xfffffffff
> [    1.266519] [    T328] dma_addressing_limited: ops = 0000000000000000 use_dma_iommu(dev) = 0
> [    1.266520] [    T328] dma_direct_all_ram_mapped: returning true
> [    1.266521] [    T328] dma_addressing_limited: returning ret = 0
> [    1.266521] [    T328] amdgpu 0000:03:00.0: amdgpu: amdgpu_ttm_init: calling ttm_device_init() with use_dma32 = 0
> [    1.266525] [    T328] entering ttm_device_init, use_dma32 = 0
> [    1.267115] [    T328] entering ttm_pool_init, use_dma32 = 0
> 
> [    3.965669] [    T328] dma_addressing_limited: mask = 0xfffffffffff bus_dma_limit = 0x0 required_mask = 0x3fffffffffff
> [    3.965671] [    T328] dma_addressing_limited: returning true
> [    3.965672] [    T328] amdgpu 0000:08:00.0: amdgpu: amdgpu_ttm_init: calling ttm_device_init() with use_dma32 = 1
> [    3.965674] [    T328] entering ttm_device_init, use_dma32 = 1
> [    3.965747] [    T328] entering ttm_pool_init, use_dma32 = 1
> 
> Without nokaslr:
> [    1.300907] [    T351] dma_addressing_limited: mask = 0xfffffffffff bus_dma_limit = 0x0 required_mask = 0xfffffffff
> [    1.300909] [    T351] dma_addressing_limited: ops = 0000000000000000 use_dma_iommu(dev) = 0
> [    1.300910] [    T351] dma_direct_all_ram_mapped: returning true
> [    1.300910] [    T351] dma_addressing_limited: returning ret = 0
> [    1.300911] [    T351] amdgpu 0000:03:00.0: amdgpu: amdgpu_ttm_init: calling ttm_device_init() with use_dma32 = 0
> [    1.300915] [    T351] entering ttm_device_init, use_dma32 = 0
> [    1.301210] [    T351] entering ttm_pool_init, use_dma32 = 0
> 
> [    4.000602] [    T351] dma_addressing_limited: mask = 0xfffffffffff bus_dma_limit = 0x0 required_mask = 0xfffffffffff
> [    4.000603] [    T351] dma_addressing_limited: ops = 0000000000000000 use_dma_iommu(dev) = 0
> [    4.000604] [    T351] dma_direct_all_ram_mapped: returning true
> [    4.000605] [    T351] dma_addressing_limited: returning ret = 0
> [    4.000606] [    T351] amdgpu 0000:08:00.0: amdgpu: amdgpu_ttm_init: calling ttm_device_init() with use_dma32 = 0
> [    4.000610] [    T351] entering ttm_device_init, use_dma32 = 0
> [    4.000687] [    T351] entering ttm_pool_init, use_dma32 = 0
> 
> So with nokaslr the reuqired mask for the built-in GPU changes from 0xfffffffffff
> to 0x3fffffffffff which causes dma_addressing_limited to return true which causes
> the ttm_device init to be called with use_dma32 = true.

Thanks, this is really the root cause, from what I understand.

>  It also show that for the discreate GPU nothing changes so the bug does not occur
> there.
> 
> I also was able to work around the bug by calling ttm_device_init() with use_dma32=false
> from amdgpu_ttm_init()  (drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ttm.c) but I'm not sure if this
> has unwanted side effects.
> 
> int amdgpu_ttm_init(struct amdgpu_device *adev)
> {
> 	uint64_t gtt_size;
> 	int r;
> 
> 	mutex_init(&adev->mman.gtt_window_lock);
> 
> 	dma_set_max_seg_size(adev->dev, UINT_MAX);
> 	/* No others user of address space so set it to 0 */
> 	dev_info(adev->dev, "%s: calling ttm_device_init() with use_dma32 = 0 ignoring %d\n", __func__, dma_addressing_limited(adev->dev));
> 	r = ttm_device_init(&adev->mman.bdev, &amdgpu_bo_driver, adev->dev,
> 			       adev_to_drm(adev)->anon_inode->i_mapping,
> 			       adev_to_drm(adev)->vma_offset_manager,
> 			       adev->need_swiotlb,
> 			       false /* use_dma32 */);
> 	if (r) {
> 		DRM_ERROR("failed initializing buffer object driver(%d).\n", r);
> 		return r;
> 	}
> 

I think this brings us really close, instead of forcing use_dma32 to false, I wonder if we need something like

uin64_t dma_bits = fls64(dma_get_mask(adev->dev));

to ttm_device_init, pass the last argument (use_dma32) as dma_bits < 32?


Thanks,
Balbir Singh



  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-23  6:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-22 12:23 Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-23  6:51 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2025-03-24 11:23   ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-24 12:14     ` Christian König
2025-03-24 22:48       ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]         ` <938c2cbd-c47f-4925-ba82-94eef54d9ebc@amd.com>
2025-03-25 22:45           ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-25 23:21             ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-25 23:43               ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-26  1:50                 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-26 10:10                   ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-26 10:36                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-26 11:14                       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-27 10:53                       ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-27 22:03                         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-24 21:43     ` Balbir Singh
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-03-25 10:14 Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-25 12:23 ` Christian König
2025-03-26 22:00   ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-26 22:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-27  0:57       ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-27  0:58       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-27 10:40       ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-24 23:07 Bert Karwatzki
     [not found] ` <634e77d7-4f3c-4d1a-8aa3-1978896f9bf2@amd.com>
2025-03-25 10:25   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-10 11:22 Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-10 21:48 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-11  7:19   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-11  7:28     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-11 11:15     ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-11 18:24       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-11 22:10         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-11 23:09           ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-12  0:26             ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-12  2:23               ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-12  1:24             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13  9:22               ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-13 10:40                 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 10:53                   ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-13 11:47                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 18:12                       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-13 21:54                         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 22:22                           ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-14  6:14                             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-14 13:34                               ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-14 14:18                                 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-15  0:16                                   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-15 17:40                                     ` Alex Deucher
2025-03-16 13:09                                       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-16 20:06                                         ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-17  9:13                                         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-20  9:01                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-20 23:55                                             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-21 10:24                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-21 11:05                                                 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-22  8:04                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-22  9:40                                                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-20 23:43                                           ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-21  4:55                                             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-21 12:26                                               ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-22  2:06                                                 ` Balbir Singh

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