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From: Bert Karwatzki <spasswolf@web.de>
To: Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>, "Kees Cook" <kees@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	spasswolf@web.de
Subject: Re: commit 7ffb791423c7 breaks steam game
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 12:23:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6e8ad3cd27b570aaefd85395810cc90bb3120734.camel@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <688f2757-e364-45db-ad54-daa6ff1c4f3c@nvidia.com>

Am Sonntag, dem 23.03.2025 um 17:51 +1100 schrieb Balbir Singh:
> On 3/22/25 23:23, Bert Karwatzki wrote:
> > The problem occurs in this part of ttm_tt_populate(), in the nokaslr case
> > the loop is entered and repeatedly run because ttm_dma32_pages allocated exceeds
> > the ttm_dma32_pages_limit which leads to lots of calls to ttm_global_swapout().
> >
> > if (!strcmp(get_current()->comm, "stellaris"))
> > 	printk(KERN_INFO "%s: ttm_pages_allocated=0x%llx ttm_pages_limit=0x%lx ttm_dma32_pages_allocated=0x%llx ttm_dma32_pages_limit=0x%lx\n",
> > 			__func__, ttm_pages_allocated.counter, ttm_pages_limit, ttm_dma32_pages_allocated.counter, ttm_dma32_pages_limit);
> > while (atomic_long_read(&ttm_pages_allocated) > ttm_pages_limit ||
> >        atomic_long_read(&ttm_dma32_pages_allocated) >
> >        ttm_dma32_pages_limit) {
> >
> > 	if (!strcmp(get_current()->comm, "stellaris"))
> > 	printk(KERN_INFO "%s: count=%d ttm_pages_allocated=0x%llx ttm_pages_limit=0x%lx ttm_dma32_pages_allocated=0x%llx ttm_dma32_pages_limit=0x%lx\n",
> > 			__func__, count++, ttm_pages_allocated.counter, ttm_pages_limit, ttm_dma32_pages_allocated.counter, ttm_dma32_pages_limit);
> > 	ret = ttm_global_swapout(ctx, GFP_KERNEL);
> > 	if (ret == 0)
> > 		break;
> > 	if (ret < 0)
> > 		goto error;
> > }
> >
> > In the case without nokaslr on the number of ttm_dma32_pages_allocated is 0 because
> > use_dma32 == false in this case.
> >
> > So why is use_dma32 enabled with nokaslr? Some more printk()s give this result:
> >
> > The GPUs:
> > built-in:
> > 08:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cezanne [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Vega Mobile Series] (rev c5)
> > discrete:
> > 03:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 23 [Radeon RX 6600/6600 XT/6600M] (rev c3)
> >
> > With nokaslr:
> > [    1.266517] [    T328] dma_addressing_limited: mask = 0xfffffffffff bus_dma_limit = 0x0 required_mask = 0xfffffffff
> > [    1.266519] [    T328] dma_addressing_limited: ops = 0000000000000000 use_dma_iommu(dev) = 0
> > [    1.266520] [    T328] dma_direct_all_ram_mapped: returning true
> > [    1.266521] [    T328] dma_addressing_limited: returning ret = 0
> > [    1.266521] [    T328] amdgpu 0000:03:00.0: amdgpu: amdgpu_ttm_init: calling ttm_device_init() with use_dma32 = 0
> > [    1.266525] [    T328] entering ttm_device_init, use_dma32 = 0
> > [    1.267115] [    T328] entering ttm_pool_init, use_dma32 = 0
> >
> > [    3.965669] [    T328] dma_addressing_limited: mask = 0xfffffffffff bus_dma_limit = 0x0 required_mask = 0x3fffffffffff
> > [    3.965671] [    T328] dma_addressing_limited: returning true
> > [    3.965672] [    T328] amdgpu 0000:08:00.0: amdgpu: amdgpu_ttm_init: calling ttm_device_init() with use_dma32 = 1
> > [    3.965674] [    T328] entering ttm_device_init, use_dma32 = 1
> > [    3.965747] [    T328] entering ttm_pool_init, use_dma32 = 1
> >
> > Without nokaslr:
> > [    1.300907] [    T351] dma_addressing_limited: mask = 0xfffffffffff bus_dma_limit = 0x0 required_mask = 0xfffffffff
> > [    1.300909] [    T351] dma_addressing_limited: ops = 0000000000000000 use_dma_iommu(dev) = 0
> > [    1.300910] [    T351] dma_direct_all_ram_mapped: returning true
> > [    1.300910] [    T351] dma_addressing_limited: returning ret = 0
> > [    1.300911] [    T351] amdgpu 0000:03:00.0: amdgpu: amdgpu_ttm_init: calling ttm_device_init() with use_dma32 = 0
> > [    1.300915] [    T351] entering ttm_device_init, use_dma32 = 0
> > [    1.301210] [    T351] entering ttm_pool_init, use_dma32 = 0
> >
> > [    4.000602] [    T351] dma_addressing_limited: mask = 0xfffffffffff bus_dma_limit = 0x0 required_mask = 0xfffffffffff
> > [    4.000603] [    T351] dma_addressing_limited: ops = 0000000000000000 use_dma_iommu(dev) = 0
> > [    4.000604] [    T351] dma_direct_all_ram_mapped: returning true
> > [    4.000605] [    T351] dma_addressing_limited: returning ret = 0
> > [    4.000606] [    T351] amdgpu 0000:08:00.0: amdgpu: amdgpu_ttm_init: calling ttm_device_init() with use_dma32 = 0
> > [    4.000610] [    T351] entering ttm_device_init, use_dma32 = 0
> > [    4.000687] [    T351] entering ttm_pool_init, use_dma32 = 0
> >
> > So with nokaslr the reuqired mask for the built-in GPU changes from 0xfffffffffff
> > to 0x3fffffffffff which causes dma_addressing_limited to return true which causes
> > the ttm_device init to be called with use_dma32 = true.
>
> Thanks, this is really the root cause, from what I understand.
>
> >  It also show that for the discreate GPU nothing changes so the bug does not occur
> > there.
> >
> > I also was able to work around the bug by calling ttm_device_init() with use_dma32=false
> > from amdgpu_ttm_init()  (drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ttm.c) but I'm not sure if this
> > has unwanted side effects.
> >
> > int amdgpu_ttm_init(struct amdgpu_device *adev)
> > {
> > 	uint64_t gtt_size;
> > 	int r;
> >
> > 	mutex_init(&adev->mman.gtt_window_lock);
> >
> > 	dma_set_max_seg_size(adev->dev, UINT_MAX);
> > 	/* No others user of address space so set it to 0 */
> > 	dev_info(adev->dev, "%s: calling ttm_device_init() with use_dma32 = 0 ignoring %d\n", __func__, dma_addressing_limited(adev->dev));
> > 	r = ttm_device_init(&adev->mman.bdev, &amdgpu_bo_driver, adev->dev,
> > 			       adev_to_drm(adev)->anon_inode->i_mapping,
> > 			       adev_to_drm(adev)->vma_offset_manager,
> > 			       adev->need_swiotlb,
> > 			       false /* use_dma32 */);
> > 	if (r) {
> > 		DRM_ERROR("failed initializing buffer object driver(%d).\n", r);
> > 		return r;
> > 	}
> >
>
> I think this brings us really close, instead of forcing use_dma32 to false, I wonder if we need something like
>
> uin64_t dma_bits = fls64(dma_get_mask(adev->dev));
>
> to ttm_device_init, pass the last argument (use_dma32) as dma_bits < 32?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Balbir Singh
>

Do these address bits have to shift when using nokaslr or PCI_P2PDMA, I think
this shift cause the increase of the required_dma_mask to 0x3fffffffffff?

@@ -104,4 +104,4 @@
       fe30300000-fe303fffff : 0000:04:00.0
     fe30400000-fe30403fff : 0000:04:00.0
     fe30404000-fe30404fff : 0000:04:00.0
-afe00000000-affffffffff : 0000:03:00.0
+3ffe00000000-3fffffffffff : 0000:03:00.0

And what memory is this? It's 8G in size so it could be the RAM of the discrete
GPU (which is at PCI 0000:03:00.0), but that is already here (part of
/proc/iomem):

1010000000-ffffffffff : PCI Bus 0000:00
  fc00000000-fe0fffffff : PCI Bus 0000:01
    fc00000000-fe0fffffff : PCI Bus 0000:02
      fc00000000-fe0fffffff : PCI Bus 0000:03
        fc00000000-fdffffffff : 0000:03:00.0  GPU RAM
        fe00000000-fe0fffffff : 0000:03:00.0

lspci -v reports 8G of memory at 0xfc00000000 so I assmumed that is the GPU RAM.
03:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 23
[Radeon RX 6600/6600 XT/6600M] (rev c3)
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 1313
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 107, IOMMU group 14
	Memory at fc00000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=8G]
	Memory at fe00000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
	Memory at fca00000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
	Expansion ROM at fcb00000 [disabled] [size=128K]

Bert Karwatzki


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-24 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-22 12:23 Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-23  6:51 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-24 11:23   ` Bert Karwatzki [this message]
2025-03-24 12:14     ` Christian König
2025-03-24 22:48       ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]         ` <938c2cbd-c47f-4925-ba82-94eef54d9ebc@amd.com>
2025-03-25 22:45           ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-25 23:21             ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-25 23:43               ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-26  1:50                 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-26 10:10                   ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-26 10:36                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-26 11:14                       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-27 10:53                       ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-27 22:03                         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-24 21:43     ` Balbir Singh
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-03-25 10:14 Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-25 12:23 ` Christian König
2025-03-26 22:00   ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-26 22:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-27  0:57       ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-27  0:58       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-27 10:40       ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-24 23:07 Bert Karwatzki
     [not found] ` <634e77d7-4f3c-4d1a-8aa3-1978896f9bf2@amd.com>
2025-03-25 10:25   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-10 11:22 Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-10 21:48 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-11  7:19   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-11  7:28     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-11 11:15     ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-11 18:24       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-11 22:10         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-11 23:09           ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-12  0:26             ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-12  2:23               ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-12  1:24             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13  9:22               ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-13 10:40                 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 10:53                   ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-13 11:47                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 18:12                       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-13 21:54                         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 22:22                           ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-14  6:14                             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-14 13:34                               ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-14 14:18                                 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-15  0:16                                   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-15 17:40                                     ` Alex Deucher
2025-03-16 13:09                                       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-16 20:06                                         ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-17  9:13                                         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-20  9:01                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-20 23:55                                             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-21 10:24                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-21 11:05                                                 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-22  8:04                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-22  9:40                                                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-20 23:43                                           ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-21  4:55                                             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-21 12:26                                               ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-22  2:06                                                 ` Balbir Singh

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