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From: Bert Karwatzki <spasswolf@web.de>
To: Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas	 <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	spasswolf@web.de
Subject: Re: commit 7ffb791423c7 breaks steam game
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 23:22:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa8d5e76694918bdaae9faee9648776f298f78ca.camel@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b63b1de8-7eec-4235-b61e-e654e78543ba@nvidia.com>

Am Freitag, dem 14.03.2025 um 08:54 +1100 schrieb Balbir Singh:
> On 3/14/25 05:12, Bert Karwatzki wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, dem 13.03.2025 um 22:47 +1100 schrieb Balbir Singh:
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyway, I think the nokaslr result is interesting, it seems like with nokaslr
> > > even the older kernels have problems with the game
> > >
> > > Could you confirm if with nokaslr
> > >
> > Now I've tested kernel 6.8.12 with nokaslr
> >
> > > 1. Only one single game stellaris is not working?
> > > 2. The entire laptop does not work?
> > > 3. Laptop works and other games work? Just one game is not working as
> > expected?
> >
> >
> > Stellaris is showing the input lag and the entire graphical user interface shows
> > the same input lag as long as stellaris is running.
> > Civilization 6 shows the same input lag as stellaris, probably even worse.
> > Magic the Gathering: Arena (with wine) works normally.
> > Valheim also works normally.
> > Crusader Kings 2 works normally
> > Rogue Heroes: Ruins of Tasos (a Zelda lookalike) works normally.
> > Baldur's Gate I & II and Icewind Dale work normally.
> >
> > Also the input lag is only in the GUI, if I switch to a text console (ctrl + alt
> > + Fn), input works normally even while the affected games are running.
> >
> > Games aside everything else (e.g. compiling kernels) seems to work with nokaslr.
> >
>
> Would it be fair to assume that anything Xorg/Wayland is working fine
> when the game is not running, even with nokaslr?
>
Yes, Xorg (I'm normally using xfce4 as desktop) works fine. I also tested with
gnome using Xwayland, here the buggy behaviour also exists, with the addtion
that mouse position is off, i.e. to click a button in the game you have to click
somewhat above it.

> +amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org to see if there are known issues with
> nokaslr and the games you mentioned.
>
>
> Balbir Singh
>
> PS: I came across an interesting link
> https://www.alex-ionescu.com/behind-windows-x64s-44-bit-memory-addressing-limit/
>
> I think SLIST_HEADER is used by wine as well for user space and I am not sure
> if in this situation the game is hitting this scenario, but surprisingly the other
> games are not. This is assuming the game uses wine. I am not sure it's related,
> but the 44 bits caught my attention.

Stellaris is a native linux game (x86_64), the one game (MTGA) I tested with
wine worked fine.

By the way, the warning
[ T8562] WARNING: CPU: 14 PID: 8562 at mm/slub.c:5028
__kvmalloc_node_noprof+0x2fd/0x360
that appeared in the dmesg I sent you is caused by the upgrade of mesa from
25.0.0 to 25.0.1. (I'm still bisecting ...)

Bert Karwatzki

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-13 22:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-10 11:22 Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-10 21:48 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-11  7:19   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-11  7:28     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-11 11:15     ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-11 18:24       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-11 22:10         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-11 23:09           ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-12  0:26             ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-12  2:23               ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-12  1:24             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13  9:22               ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-13 10:40                 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 10:53                   ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-13 11:47                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 18:12                       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-13 21:54                         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 22:22                           ` Bert Karwatzki [this message]
2025-03-14  6:14                             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-14 13:34                               ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-14 14:18                                 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-15  0:16                                   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-15 17:40                                     ` Alex Deucher
2025-03-16 13:09                                       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-16 20:06                                         ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-17  9:13                                         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-20  9:01                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-20 23:55                                             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-21 10:24                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-21 11:05                                                 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-22  8:04                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-22  9:40                                                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-20 23:43                                           ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-21  4:55                                             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-21 12:26                                               ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-22  2:06                                                 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-22 12:23 Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-23  6:51 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-24 11:23   ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-24 12:14     ` Christian König
2025-03-24 22:48       ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]         ` <938c2cbd-c47f-4925-ba82-94eef54d9ebc@amd.com>
2025-03-25 22:45           ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-25 23:21             ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-25 23:43               ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-26  1:50                 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-26 10:10                   ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-26 10:36                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-26 11:14                       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-27 10:53                       ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-27 22:03                         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-24 21:43     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-24 23:07 Bert Karwatzki
     [not found] ` <634e77d7-4f3c-4d1a-8aa3-1978896f9bf2@amd.com>
2025-03-25 10:25   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-25 10:14 Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-25 12:23 ` Christian König
2025-03-26 22:00   ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-26 22:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-27  0:57       ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-27  0:58       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-27 10:40       ` Ingo Molnar

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