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From: Genes Lists <lists@sapience.com>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Linux regressions mailing list <regressions@lists.linux.dev>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>,
	Linux LEDs <linux-leds@vger.kernel.org>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	andrew@lunn.ch,  davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
	kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com,  johanneswueller@gmail.com,
	"Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Hung tasks due to a AB-BA deadlock between the leds_list_lock rwsem and the rtnl mutex
Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 07:55:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <69d0c5f0b237990fd2c7cd88768aa2a70a5ee83a.camel@sapience.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <618601d8-f82a-402f-bf7f-831671d3d83f@redhat.com>

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On Fri, 2024-05-31 at 11:50 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> ...

> I actually have been looking at a ledtrig-netdev lockdep warning
> yesterday
> which I believe is the same thing. I'll include the lockdep trace
> below.
> 
> According to lockdep there indeed is a ABBA (ish) cyclic deadlock
> with
> the rtnl mutex vs led-triggers related locks. I believe that this
> problem
> may be a pre-existing problem but this now actually gets hit in
> kernels >=
> 6.9 because of commit 66601a29bb23 ("leds: class: If no default
> trigger is
> given, make hw_control trigger the default trigger"). Before that
> commit
> the "netdev" trigger would not be bound / set as phy LEDs trigger by
> default.
> 
> +Cc Heiner Kallweit who authored that commit.
> 
> The netdev trigger typically is not needed because the PHY LEDs are
> typically
> under hw-control and the netdev trigger even tries to leave things
> that way
> so setting it as the active trigger for the LED class device is
> basically
> a no-op. I guess the goal of that commit is correctly have the
> triggers
> file content reflect that the LED is controlled by a netdev and to
> allow
> changing the hw-control mode without the user first needing to set
> netdev
> as trigger before being able to change the mode.
> 
> But there is a price to this, besides the locking problem this also
> causes the ledtrig-netdev module to load on pretty much everyones
> systems (when build as a module) even though 99.999% of our users
> likely does not need this at all...
> 
> Given this price and the troubles this is causing I think it might be
> best
> to revert 66601a29bb23. There might still be a locking issue when
> setting
> the trigger to netdev manually (I'll check and follow up) but this
> should
> fix the regression users are hitting since typically users do not set
> the trigger manually.
> 
> Gene, as the original reporter of this can you do "modinfo
> ledtrig_netdev"
> and if this shows that ledtrig_netdev is a module for you try
> blacklisting
> ledtrig_netdev ?  And if it is not a module can you try building a
> 6.9
> kernel with commit 66601a29bb23 reverted and see if that helps ?

Thank you - I've blacklisted ledtrig_netdev and will report back if
anything interesting happens.

best

gene

> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Hans

-- 
Gene


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-05-31 11:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-30 12:53 6.9.3 Hung tasks Genes Lists
2024-05-30 13:36 ` Genes Lists
2024-05-30 14:04   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-05-30 16:23     ` Genes Lists
2024-05-31  8:39     ` Hung tasks due to a AB-BA deadlock between the leds_list_lock rwsem and the rtnl mutex (was: 6.9.3 Hung tasks) Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2024-05-31  9:50       ` Hung tasks due to a AB-BA deadlock between the leds_list_lock rwsem and the rtnl mutex Hans de Goede
2024-05-31 10:22         ` Hans de Goede
2024-06-01 20:05           ` Hans de Goede
2024-05-31 11:55         ` Genes Lists [this message]
2024-05-31 12:54         ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-31 13:11           ` Hans de Goede
2024-05-31 13:29             ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-31 13:36               ` Hans de Goede
2024-06-06 12:01           ` Hans de Goede
2024-06-06 13:12             ` Andrew Lunn
2024-06-06 13:39               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-06-06 14:25                 ` Genes Lists
2024-06-07 10:22                   ` Hans de Goede
2024-06-07 11:27                     ` Genes Lists
2024-06-07 10:19                 ` Hans de Goede
2024-06-24 19:57           ` Heiner Kallweit

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