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From: "benbjiang(蒋彪)" <benbjiang@tencent.com>
To: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: Jiang Biao <benbjiang@gmail.com>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"juri.lelli@redhat.com" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	"vincent.guittot@linaro.org" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"rostedt@goodmis.org" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"bsegall@google.com" <bsegall@google.com>,
	"mgorman@suse.de" <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: reduce preemption with IDLE tasks runable(Internet mail)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 12:05:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <755BFAD0-9072-4D73-9CD7-AF4F74A79D21@tencent.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55f04582-69d6-aeb4-85be-3e46a3b15beb@arm.com>



> On Aug 17, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
> 
> On 14/08/2020 01:55, benbjiang(蒋彪) wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2020, at 2:39 AM, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 12/08/2020 05:19, benbjiang(蒋彪) wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:54 PM, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/08/2020 02:41, benbjiang(蒋彪) wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 06/08/2020 17:52, benbjiang(蒋彪) wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 9:29 PM, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 03/08/2020 13:26, benbjiang(蒋彪) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/08/2020 04:32, Jiang Biao wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jiang Biao <benbjiang@tencent.com>
> 
> [...]
> 
>>>> ** 2normal+1idle: idle preempt normal every 600+ms **
>>> 
>>> During the 3.2s the 2 SCHED_OTHER tasks run, the SCHED_IDLE task is
>>> switched in only once, after ~2.5s.
>> Use your config with loop increased from 200 to 2000, to observe longer,
>> 
>>           <...>-37620 [002] d... 47950.446191: sched_switch: prev_comm=task_other-1 prev_pid=37620 prev_prio=120 prev_state=S ==> next_comm=task_idle-2 next_pid=37621 next_prio=120
>>           <...>-37619 [002] d... 47955.687709: sched_switch: prev_comm=task_other-0 prev_pid=37619 prev_prio=120 prev_state=R ==> next_comm=task_idle-2 next_pid=37621 next_prio=120
>> // The first preemption interval is 5.2s.
>>           <...>-37620 [002] d... 47956.375716: sched_switch: prev_comm=task_other-1 prev_pid=37620 prev_prio=120 prev_state=R ==> next_comm=task_idle-2 next_pid=37621 next_prio=120
>>           <...>-37619 [002] d... 47957.060722: sched_switch: prev_comm=task_other-0 prev_pid=37619 prev_prio=120 prev_state=R ==> next_comm=task_idle-2 next_pid=37621 next_prio=120
>>           <...>-37620 [002] d... 47957.747728: sched_switch: prev_comm=task_other-1 prev_pid=37620 prev_prio=120 prev_state=R ==> next_comm=task_idle-2 next_pid=37621 next_prio=120
>>          <...>-37620 [002] d... 47958.423734: sched_switch: prev_comm=task_other-1 prev_pid=37620 prev_prio=120 prev_state=R ==> next_comm=task_idle-2 next_pid=37621 next_prio=120
>>           <...>-37620 [002] d... 47959.119740: sched_switch: prev_comm=task_other-1 prev_pid=37620 prev_prio=120 prev_state=R ==> next_comm=task_idle-2 next_pid=37621 next_prio=120
>> // After the first preemption, the rest preemption intervals are all about 600ms+. :)
> 
> Are you sure about this?
Yes. :)
> 
> The math is telling me for the:
> 
> idle task:      (3 / (1024 + 1024 + 3))^(-1) * 4ms = 2735ms
> 
> normal task: (1024 / (1024 + 1024 + 3))^(-1) * 4ms =    8ms
> 
> (4ms - 250 Hz)
My tick is 1ms - 1000HZ, which seems reasonable for 600ms? :)

Thx.
Regards,
Jiang
> 
>>>> ** 3normal+idle: idle preempt normal every 1000+ms **
>>> 
>>> Ah, this was meant to be 3 SCHED_OTHER tasks only! To see the difference
>>> in behavior.
>> With 3 SCHED_OHTER tasks only, the SCHED_OHTER task is switched in
>> Every 27ms.
> 
> normal task: (1024 / (1024 + 1024 + 1024))^(-1) * 4ms = 12ms
> 
>>>> ** 2normal(nice 19)+1idle(nice 0): idle preempt normal every 30+ms **
>>> 
>>> During the 3.2s the 2 SCHED_OTHER tasks run, the SCHED_IDLE task is
>>> switched in every ~45ms.
>> That’s as what I expected. :)
> 
> idle task:    (3 / (15 + 15 + 3))^(-1) * 4ms = 44ms
> 
> normal task: (15 / (15 + 15 + 3))^(-1) * 4ms =  9ms


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-17 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-01  2:32 [PATCH] sched/fair: reduce preemption with IDLE tasks runable Jiang Biao
2020-08-03  8:16 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-03 11:26   ` [PATCH] sched/fair: reduce preemption with IDLE tasks runable(Internet mail) benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-06 13:29     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-06 15:52       ` benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-10 13:24         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-11  0:41           ` benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-11 15:54             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-12  3:19               ` benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-12 18:39                 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-13 23:55                   ` benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-17  8:57                     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-17 12:05                       ` benbjiang(蒋彪) [this message]
2020-08-19 10:46                         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-19 11:05                           ` Vincent Guittot
2020-08-19 11:55                             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-19 14:27                               ` benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-19 14:55                                 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-08-20  0:13                                   ` benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-20  7:35                                     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-08-20 11:27                                       ` benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-08-20 12:45                                         ` Vincent Guittot
2020-08-20 14:28                                           ` Jiang Biao
2020-08-20 14:36                                             ` Vincent Guittot
2020-08-21  0:14                                               ` Jiang Biao
2020-08-19 14:10                           ` benbjiang(蒋彪)

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